So now they can do something that nearly every Android home screen installable can do.
I was about to comment but you already edited it lmao.
How courageously innovative. I bet their implementation will be extremely polished because they waited so long. /s
I’ll believe it when i see it
Oooh wow will they let you change your brightness and font too?
Can’t wait until iOS 19 where they add an App drawer.
App Library. Been in iOS for several years now.
Let’s be honest though, organizing by category is the worst way to do it. Even organizing by color could probably be more convenient.
They are also organized alphabetically
I know you are probably joking but iOS has had an app drawer for a while now.
I can’t imagine the thundering applause the mindless morons will erupt into when Tim Cook announces on stage that you’ll be able to customize your home screen.
iPhones are super popular…? What a fucking joke
We’re going to need 50CCs of fresh grass stat.
How often do you go outside and how long do you spend out there?
I walk about three or four miles a day and now that it’s spring I’m gardening most days too.
Ok I walk about 7 miles a day and when the weather is nice that’s mostly outdoors. So yeah I don’t need to “touch grass” since I already do.
Well then maybe therapy might be a valid next step. Good luck!
You’re defending apple on the Internet and recommending therapy to a stranger based on a sentence so I don’t think I’d get too high and mighty.
I didn’t defend, let alone mention Apple? You’re calling people morons and making up little scenarios to make yourself mad, all for a phone you don’t even use. No ones high or mighty, you just obviously seem like you’d benefit from talking to someone.
It’s not the applause of awe, it’s the applause of “fucking finally.”
Same thing happens after Google events. The last big feature that made everyone lose their shit was Google deciding to actually update their phones for more than a couple years. Shitty update support has been something iOS users have mocked Android about for a many many years.
There are other examples, but the point is that both ecosystems have reached the point where they’re just cloning each other 90% of the time.
Not really, android typically has software features 5+ years in advance of iphone. Most of the “cloning” was done in the first couple years smartphones existed.
I feel like I know how this thread ends. It’s happened before and it will happen again.
Two folks go tit for tat and list out features that each brand clones from each other during their last event, and the events before that.
In the end we both lose for spending the evening arguing about two operating systems that we’re both using for the same exact shit posting.
Nah I definitely don’t care enough to do that
Wow, I’m glad Apple engineers finally figured out how to invent this feature. I can’t wait to be told at a keynote how bold, innovative, and courageous this is.
Welcome, to the world of 2015!
Wake up babe it’s 1.153695229E+5785
Welcome to apple_enthusiast, where most of the comments seem to come from people that haven’t had iOS as a daily driver since the iPhone 3 or 4.
My gf has an iPhone 14 which I bought for her. I’ve had to use it several times and I hate the damn thing ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
What part? Genuinely curious as I enjoy both. Only thing I actively despise is the inability to natively use manual focus
For me it’s that and the lack of a default native keyboard with a number line!
The number line is very cool. I do miss that, as well as long-pressing any key to get the character located “behind” it.
The native keyboard is about the only thing I dislike on my iPhone. I switched from an Android 13 months ago. But when I used Android I did not use the native keyboard either.
I wish there was something solid like the zen phone 9 when I was looking to buy a new phone. I went with the iPhone 13 pro hoping it would last me at least 5 years, since Apple tends to be pretty good about their software longevity. I like android but I wasn’t about to switch to a Samsung because I just don’t like the weird “look we made our own app, now you have two browsers!”
My longest lasting Android was the moto Z4 i had just before getting my iPhone 14 pro. The Z4 had stopped being updates like two, if not 3 years prior to the switch. And when it did get a security update it was from 9 months prior or something. I used to do the custom ROM and flash daily-weekly, but then someone stops updating your ROM and you have to find another, to me apple has been a great switch. Again, just miss Gboard.
Wild. I switched to an iPhone when my partner got one, because I hated all of the Android keyboards I had ever tried (and Swype) felt like garbage to me. I came from an OG HTC Dream, the first-ass Android phone and had physical keyboards all the way up until typing on their iPhone 4s. Ever since then, I’ve hated touchscreen keyboards WAY less. It does help to use the gigantic iPhone version too, and set all my dumb shit I say in shortcuts.
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But the iphone keyboard does not have have numbers and symbols on the keys like Gboard and other Android keyboards. And the Finnish iPhone keyboard does not have swipe typing.
Exactly. Most of the comments here are not from people daily driving these experiences.
I feel like most people here are just sliding in from c/all
I also worked in software QA with iOS devices for 4 years. Does that make my opinion more “legitimate”?
iOS is like using an operating system with parental controls and it sucks ass.
Yeah, that’s more experience that occasionally using your partner’s phone. That said, when I QA my apps on a test phone, I tend to use it very differently than if it was out and about with the phone. I’m primarily staying within the confines of the software I’m developing.
Maybe you’re different, but I’m usually not downloading apps and spending hours on the phone outside of the stuff I’m pushing.
When I was doing that I often had to get screenshots/videos that I needed to report the issues and sharing files in iOS sucks if you’re not using their ecosystem. We’re in 2024 and you can’t just plug your iphone to a usb port and just view the damn files on the thing.
They’ve been doing scummy stuff since forever. Like when the iPod touch 2nd gen had Bluetooth but you could only use it for the retarded Nike+ features some shoes had back then. It was inaccesible if you wanted to share files for example. Back then it was also a new “feature” when they finally decided to let people use a custom wallpaper.
Seriously, Apple is a like the capitalist equivalent of a toxic relationship. Maybe this video better illustrates my point.
You can import photos directly, over USB, via the stock photos apps in Windows or MacOS.
On Windows: Start > photos > import > from a usb device
My point remains, a lot of the comments here are people that seems to be ranting about something that they don’t spend much time with at all, and according to this community’s name, this is apparently a user group of “apple enthusiasts.”
You do realize that you’re telling me to use an “app” when it would be a lot easier if it just showed up as an external drive in the file explorer, right? Not to mention that media is just an example. What if I want to use it as a thumbdrive for random files? It’s very stupid limitation and there’s no way to justify it.
this is apparently a user group of “apple enthusiasts.”
enthusiast =/= blind
this is an unpopular opinion but i know the aesthetic reason for apple not implementing this for so long.
i hate how android phones look, often with 4-6 screens of more empty space than icons, tons of widgets with an inconsistent design scheme, random half empty folders and a notification bar overcrowded with overshrunk icons. android phones often look like old Windows XP desktops—even on flagship distributions. apple, by not allowing placement anywhere intentionally enforced a consistent top-left to bottom-right aesthetic which is now ubiquitous to the brand. when you blur your eyes and look at a phone home screen you can tell whether it is apple or not.
- but the functionality is worse, yes i know.
- but it actually does look worse too, to you maybe, but not to apple. my belief is they did this for the same reason they put the magic mouse’s lighting port on the bottom (to keep users from always using it plugged in. which looks “ugly”).
the power of a strong and unmistakable brand is incomparable. in many cases, the value of a brand can even outperform raw product utility when it comes to customer satisfaction, a theory which i believe apple has been leveraging in this case very much intentionally despite the seeming paradox of utility.
Your comment isn’t even that pro-Apple, and it’s much more generous towards Android’s design than you’d find on any other space titled apple_enthusiast.
And generally speaking isn’t that the exact reason they gave for not adding widgets right away? I thought this was more well known fact than an opinion.
i was getting close to -10 points for a second 😭 i guess the sane people that don’t just knee jerk vote were asleep
idk about the widgets lore i literally don’t follow apple at all i just happen to know about marketing and design stuff
I noticed lemmy to have way less reactionary voting compared to reddit. Your comment makes a lot of sense. Just look at this mess lol but at the end of the day it’s my phone and my mess.
You wrote all that and only used a single upper case letter. Impressive
i count at least three but thanks lol
Don’t second guess the willingness of an Apple-hater to spend that much time dissecting something bad Apple has done.
The Magic Mouse thing is also about the battery, a battery kept plugged in all the time is more likely to swell.
Wow… I never thought of the Magic Mouse thing, yet you’re entirely correct. Everyone would use it like that, and honestly it does look better without being plugged in (although everything else about it sucks, I hate that damn mouse)
thanks haha this is the first time ive brought up the mindset behind it without being called a shill or something 😭
i personally do like the magic mouse i like the lil touchpad on top but i can definitely see how it would suck weeeeeener for gaming or perhaps design applications, probably a lot more than those examples too
But you are a shill
okay
Your explanation and the whole comment in general didn’t make me like and understand Apple. It made me understand and fiercely hate Apple products even more.
absolutely fair
I have to disagree on one point – that iOS home screens somehow look more orderly because they’re full of icons arranged in a strict top-left-to-bottom-right fashion. It doesn’t look any less cluttered than an overly full Windows desktop.
I found desktops that limit themselves to core functionality and maybe a nice wallpaper to be better looking and more usable since the days of Windows 95 and that hasn’t changed since.
That “strict grid of icons” look certainly is uniform across iDevices and that’s what appeals to Apple but I never found it to be particularly attractive.
we actually agree on this point. i don’t argue they look more orderly i argue they look uniform across the ecosystem which was central to my thesis :)
I’d be shocked if they just cloned Android’s default functionality and called it a day. Like the App Library, they’re probably going to try to have a unique spin on it, and will try to address some of the user experience quirks that a lot of iOS users don’t like.
I’ll bet money that it’s going to be pre structured layouts that look nice, like the Apple Watch, with one layout being “go nuts.” A CMS template system for the Home Screen.
Im manifesting this 😭
i could definitely see that happening
Every modern release of iOS is more like Android, and every modern release of Android is more like iOS. Welcome to convergent evolution.
By 2030, the only major difference between Android and iOS will be that, when you hit the bottom of a scrolling page, one will be a little bouncy and the other will be a little stretchy.
People will still fight over which OS is the best.
Personally I like the bounce, the stretch on my android always felt anticlimactic
Yeah, I assume the Android stretch is because Apple might throw a legal hissy fit if they directly cloned iOS’s “rubber banding.” It was one of the early R&D interaction models that was key to Jobs green lighting the iPhone.
Really? That’s kind of neat. I will say, iphones feel really nice to use, with the haptics and also general fluid animations. That is, assuming you do “basic phone things”, because as soon as you try and do complex things you need many more taps per action and sometimes the animated delay gets in the way.
Turning on some of an OS’ accessibility setting around motor and vision impairments can speed things up if you want to fly fast. There are a lot fun hidden features that will kill animation or open up hidden shortcuts.
IMHO, the end of scroll animation is probably one of the more harmless ones. Since scroll bars are usually hidden or faint, it provides some affordance for hitting the end of the line.
Using an old Android phone that does a hard stop really feels pretty bad now. It’s one of those “how the fuck did we live this way for so long” moments. It’s like going back to a lower refresh rate on a display. It just feels kind of janky.
Bullshit, by 2030 everything will be doomscrollable thanks to generative text AI. Our marketing department has done some research and concluded that our customers will stop using their device if they hit the bottom.
Everything evolves into a crab eventually
Except one crab costs more than the other … still the same crabs though
And here we go again. People still arguing over which crab to buy.
In this release, we added a big claw you can use to pinch the nose of someone who was foolish enough to buy a phone from our competitor.
We also enabled additional anti-competitive features — we think you’re gonna love it!
Also, you don’t have a choice. This phone will reboot and install the update in 5…4…
That’s not a feature already???
My next phone is an Android probably because Apple stopped making “small” phones.
And so did android manufacturers. The last small-ish Android phone, the Asus Zenfone is now also ginormous in its latest revision…
Like, below 6“ there’s the ZenFone 10, the iPhone 13 mini (both not current gen but still up to date), the Sony Xperia 10 IV (the V is above 6“), and a bunch of rugged phones (that aren’t exactly small either) and a few cheap af phones that are exactly 6"
The marked is harsh to us small phone fans…
The big ones, true. But at least with Android there’s some sort of a possibility that somebody tries. Like the Unihertz Titan and Jelly models. Unfortunately stuck at Android 13 officially.
Yea and also their screens are comically small. The Jelly‘s 3“ are barely useable… I want sub 6“ not sub 4“…
It’s a matter of how you use it and for what, really. My watch screen is 1.5"
There’s the 2nd gen SE although they said it sold poorly.
I got the second gen SE and thought it was great overall. Sometimes I still miss the fingerprint scanner.
Yeah I like mine a lot. There’s not a lot of small phones nowadays that aren’t just meant to be as cheap as possible.
I got my parents those. They are crap devices.
Wtf lol
Off topic but I never see articles posted here about what the new features in Android are going to be, but Apple haters will undoubtedly let me know what I can expect to see in iOS.
It’s almost as if this is the c/apple community and not the c/android community, or something.
You’d think that, but really most of the comments are just from people coming in from c/all
What does that have to do with anything? It’s a post about Apple, posted to c/Apple, where people (from wherever) are discussing features of the Apple OS. Shouted’s complaint still makes no fucking sense. If you go to c/Android, where people make posts about Android, you’ll see also plenty of people (from wherever) making all sort of comments, that also include complaints about Android’s upcoming features. It’s the most non-complaint in history. “People are using the website as intended to make fun of my phone! waaahhh!”
This is c/apple_enthusiast, not c/apple
Who cares?
My point is that this is supposed to be community for people who daily drive these Apple operating systems, but that’s not who is primarily commenting on these threads.
You want a…private…community on the Fediverse? I’m sorry Sir/Mme, I think you are pretty lost and confused here. Nowhere is it specified that this community is exclusively for iOS users.
