Oh, I misread your post then (E: I think you’re missing a comma). I thought you were accusing me of diving into your history. I haven’t, so I couldn’t say what you have said. However, I never accused you of saying anything in the first place. Without that, your comments make no sense.
Then we agree that saying “fuck Italians” or “fuck Israelis” is pretty racist, since it is an unmotivated and generalized insult to a whole group of people identified by their country of origin?
I think I understand where your coming from, but I’m uncomfortable with blurring the distinction between national boarders and race. After all, I think we both agreed that different human races aren’t real, while nations are much more concrete. If we label all generalization as racism, I fear that it waters down the meaning of the word, just like when people call anything more authoritarian than them a Nazi.
However, we can definitely agree that sweeping generalizations are bad. Instead of spreading hate in the world, we should treat others how we would wish to be treated.
To be quite honest, I did some searching of race and racism before even my first response to you just be sure. I still dont agree with you and neither did what I found. Furthermore, unless there’s some votes not federating to my instance, nobody on here agrees with your initial claim.
Mate, I do not care at all if randoms on the internet agree that saying “fuck Italians” is racist. It is, period.
However you came here saying “against the Italian race?” and I needed to educate you, because it would be a big problem if people start thinking that hating a whole population isn’t racist because races don’t exist or some other contemporary nazifascist reason.
There is no Italian race! Boarders are not ethnic groups, and by claiming they are you are generalizing the contents of those boarders.
That being said, sweeping generalizations are still wrong. However, your attitude in this whole comment chain has been abhorrent and it’s surely not swinging anyone over to your viewpoint.
Whether or not a generalizing bigot is a racist depends on more than that. Given the example, the chances are high. However, there is no French race and I find the calling of the entire population of France a single ethnic group a bit disgusting. So no, in isolation I would not call French-hate racism, but it still doesn’t make it right. Just like calling someone a “piece of shit” on the internet.
Oh, I misread your post then (E: I think you’re missing a comma). I thought you were accusing me of diving into your history. I haven’t, so I couldn’t say what you have said. However, I never accused you of saying anything in the first place. Without that, your comments make no sense.
Then we agree that saying “fuck Italians” or “fuck Israelis” is pretty racist, since it is an unmotivated and generalized insult to a whole group of people identified by their country of origin?
I think I understand where your coming from, but I’m uncomfortable with blurring the distinction between national boarders and race. After all, I think we both agreed that different human races aren’t real, while nations are much more concrete. If we label all generalization as racism, I fear that it waters down the meaning of the word, just like when people call anything more authoritarian than them a Nazi.
However, we can definitely agree that sweeping generalizations are bad. Instead of spreading hate in the world, we should treat others how we would wish to be treated.
That’s why you need to look up what “racism” is and why it is a real thing.
To be quite honest, I did some searching of race and racism before even my first response to you just be sure. I still dont agree with you and neither did what I found. Furthermore, unless there’s some votes not federating to my instance, nobody on here agrees with your initial claim.
Mate, I do not care at all if randoms on the internet agree that saying “fuck Italians” is racist. It is, period.
However you came here saying “against the Italian race?” and I needed to educate you, because it would be a big problem if people start thinking that hating a whole population isn’t racist because races don’t exist or some other contemporary nazifascist reason.
That’s all. No need to thank me.
There is no Italian race! Boarders are not ethnic groups, and by claiming they are you are generalizing the contents of those boarders.
That being said, sweeping generalizations are still wrong. However, your attitude in this whole comment chain has been abhorrent and it’s surely not swinging anyone over to your viewpoint.
So I can hate all French just because they are French and discriminate them without being racist?
Whether or not a generalizing bigot is a racist depends on more than that. Given the example, the chances are high. However, there is no French race and I find the calling of the entire population of France a single ethnic group a bit disgusting. So no, in isolation I would not call French-hate racism, but it still doesn’t make it right. Just like calling someone a “piece of shit” on the internet.