• stupidcasey@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    You think I can afford a billion dollar spaceship by wasting money on heating? No I burn Children I pick up on desert planets on Mustafa to smelt ore, that’s how you save money.

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    3 days ago

    It’s doesn’t make sense saying space is cold. There is no matter in space, so there is no temperature at all, it’s completely isolated. Of course, there is actually matter everywhere in space and that matter is cold, but there is so so little it doesn’t make sense to even consider it

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      2 days ago

      “Hot” and “cold” in a conversational context is relative to the speaker. If the matter we’re talking about is your body, you’re gonna freeze (and other stuff). So yeah space is fucking cold.

    • skulblaka@sh.itjust.works
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      It’s more accurate to say that space doesn’t have a lot of easy access to external heat sources. Your local temperature is pretty much going to stay your local temperature without some significant effort being put into it. If you’re a rock, that’s cold. If you’re a spaceship full of humans and electronics that continually emit heat to operate, you’re going to stay pretty warm and shedding heat is an engineering problem that must be solved.

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          Sure, but unless you’re quite close to it and have the surface area of a planet, you’re not going to be catching a lot of that solar radiation. Some of the outer planets of our own solar system are very large, and very frozen, and unless you’re that big or bigger and that close or closer, so are you.

          There’s an awful lot of space in between stars as well. So if you’re traveling anywhere, you’re spending a lot of time outside of ~10 AU from the nearest star. Solar radiation doesn’t play a big part out there.

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            3 days ago

            i mean the main problem for most spacecraft, even unmanned ones, is cooling. not because of internal heat generation, but because there’s nothing blocking solar radiation from hitting them and nothing around them to convect that heat away.

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              Hm. Maybe you’re right then. I am both not an astrophysicist and am a bit stoned so I’m definitely willing to admit arguments here. I thought internal heat generation was the problem they were cooling far more than solar radiation but I could definitely be wrong.

              On a Sci-Fi Star Wars spaceship though I think the internal heating is definitely going to be the bigger factor.

  • sm1dger@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    Oddly, space is cold but spaceships tend to get too hot. Engines/electroncs/people give off heat inside the ship which gets trapped. You move heat by conduction, convection, or radiation, but because outside is a vacuum you cant disapate heat with the first 2 and are limited to the least effective radiation so the heat builds up

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      3 days ago

      I realised this reading The Expanse. I just didn’t think about it enough until then. “Just let the heat out into space duh” doesn’t make any sense unless you’re venting something with it.

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      Yeah, a little known fun fact about the Shuttle is that the radiators were on the inside of the bay doors. On achieving orbit they had 4 hours to get the doors open or they would have to scrub the mission before the electronics overheated. The doors never failed and no mission was ever scrubbed for this reason though.