• mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 day ago

    That’s not how it works where I live. I had to fight a ticket from one of these once, because I live in an area where courts haven’t ruled the cameras unconstitutional.

    FTFY. The rest of your comment needs to have that context in mind, because the cameras’ legality entirely depends on where you live.

    • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.world
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      24 hours ago

      Only nine states have outlawed red light cameras. Your “many” statement you made earlier is, in fact, just “some.”

      The sixth amendment challenge has been proposed several times, but very few of the actual rulings I can find contained anyone successfully using this as an argument. One for instance is The People v. Khaled in California where the camera operators were not available for cross-examination. All the state has to do is provide their witnesses and the sixth challenge goes out the window.

      Insofar as red light camera schemes have been declared unconstitutional in state courts, this is most often because the scheme in question exceeded the authority granted to cities and municipalities, which tried to go over the heads of their superseding states. You can call this a win since they were indeed declared “unconstitutional,” but not for the reason you specified. The US Supreme Court has also been silent on the sixth amendment argument.

      So, fixed that for you.

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        21 hours ago

        If you have to stoop to attacking someone’s grammar in an argument, you’ve already lost. I likely won’t be replying to this comment chain again.

        Edit: Lol they edited their comment. The original was only as follows:

        Only nine states have outlawed red light cameras. Your “many” statement you made earlier is, in fact, just “some.” So, fixed that for you.