I’m just wondering, okay coming from Japan to the Superbowl she was in a tearing hurry, so not the best example, but normally, how many people are usually in that jet with her? (Separate question maybe: When she’s touring, how do the roadies and equipment get from city to city?) She’s got quite a large entourage, especially when you add in her friends and family and cats and someone to help herd the cats. I wouldn’t want the price or availability of my vacation tickets affected by them all piling on my flight. And touring is her job. She’s going out to entertain the masses, not herself (she seems to be having a good time but still). Would it be better if she stayed put and they all traveled to see her? A few do follow her around but most are pleased to see her show up in their local area. I’m just not convinced it’s the worst waste of resources. Now, the Pope…!
Do you have a car? Have you ever visited relatives / gone on vacation by flying? Her job takes her around the world with a group. She doesn’t have to go there by horse carriage.
That doesn’t seem like a relevant difference. She chose to bring the entourage and the cats. If the CEO chooses to bring some friends along are we cool with his carbon footprint all of a sudden?
She performs with the entourage. She needs the roadies, the dancers etc. If a CEO brought their workers for a job, then yeah, I’m cool with his “carbon footprint”.
I think it depends on need vs want. Does she need her cats, friends and most of the crew? No, she just wants them. Most large venues are able to povide staging crew, for instance. I can see a ‘need’ for a stylist or lighting director for example, since a local placeholder just wouldn’t be able to re-create the exact style or look that they want.
But that’s not enough people to warrant a private jet. I think it’d be more justifiable for the plane to be fitted with regular passenger seating and for those seats to be sold to the public as commercial travel
I would think you’d want crew who had trained on the show, who knew exactly where and when the lighting/pyrotechnics/scenery/instruments/costume/etc. changes need to happen, in order to minimize tech rehearsals. And if you’re Taylor Swift you can afford that, rather than muddle through with whoever is available at the venues in each town of each country. It might even be more cost effective, by way of the Vimes Boots Theory of Economics. And it would pay off in a clean, safe show every time.
As for friends, in a touring lifestyle how would you have any if they can’t come with you, at least sometimes?
Now that suggestion about selling tickets for the rest of the plane is intriguing. She could make a bundle selling them to fans, OR, she could give those spaces to people who need and deserve them. Cancer kids or whatever. Although with the crazy hate out there for her, it would be a security risk…
If you didn’t have to arrive 2 hours early to get through Security, nor limit your liquids, nor take off your shoes, nor take out your cat so its carrier can be scanned, nor wait to board the plane, nor wonder if your baggage made it onto your plane, and you could be sure ahead of time that you’d like the food, and the whole airplane would get quiet if you wanted to sleep, and no crying babies unless you bring one… What would you choose?
And there’s definitely people who want to kill her.
But that doesn’t include her mom or her friends or her stage crew or bodyguards or publicity people.
I’m just wondering, okay coming from Japan to the Superbowl she was in a tearing hurry, so not the best example, but normally, how many people are usually in that jet with her? (Separate question maybe: When she’s touring, how do the roadies and equipment get from city to city?) She’s got quite a large entourage, especially when you add in her friends and family and cats and someone to help herd the cats. I wouldn’t want the price or availability of my vacation tickets affected by them all piling on my flight. And touring is her job. She’s going out to entertain the masses, not herself (she seems to be having a good time but still). Would it be better if she stayed put and they all traveled to see her? A few do follow her around but most are pleased to see her show up in their local area. I’m just not convinced it’s the worst waste of resources. Now, the Pope…!
Let me get this right: your argument is that she needs the private jets because she has a large entourage and likes to take her cats with her?
Mainly the cat thing yes.
The argument is “if the plane is full of people it’s different than a CEO going for a joyride alone or with his wife only”.
Full of people… Who only need to be there because of her.
This is like arguing it’s more efficient to put wheels on your house and drive it to work every day
Do you have a car? Have you ever visited relatives / gone on vacation by flying? Her job takes her around the world with a group. She doesn’t have to go there by horse carriage.
Comparing a car to a private jet regardless of passenger count is disingenuous in the extreme
That doesn’t seem like a relevant difference. She chose to bring the entourage and the cats. If the CEO chooses to bring some friends along are we cool with his carbon footprint all of a sudden?
She performs with the entourage. She needs the roadies, the dancers etc. If a CEO brought their workers for a job, then yeah, I’m cool with his “carbon footprint”.
I think it depends on need vs want. Does she need her cats, friends and most of the crew? No, she just wants them. Most large venues are able to povide staging crew, for instance. I can see a ‘need’ for a stylist or lighting director for example, since a local placeholder just wouldn’t be able to re-create the exact style or look that they want.
But that’s not enough people to warrant a private jet. I think it’d be more justifiable for the plane to be fitted with regular passenger seating and for those seats to be sold to the public as commercial travel
I would think you’d want crew who had trained on the show, who knew exactly where and when the lighting/pyrotechnics/scenery/instruments/costume/etc. changes need to happen, in order to minimize tech rehearsals. And if you’re Taylor Swift you can afford that, rather than muddle through with whoever is available at the venues in each town of each country. It might even be more cost effective, by way of the Vimes Boots Theory of Economics. And it would pay off in a clean, safe show every time.
As for friends, in a touring lifestyle how would you have any if they can’t come with you, at least sometimes?
Now that suggestion about selling tickets for the rest of the plane is intriguing. She could make a bundle selling them to fans, OR, she could give those spaces to people who need and deserve them. Cancer kids or whatever. Although with the crazy hate out there for her, it would be a security risk…
They use private jet to not mix with so I am sure she doesn’t fly with a dozen of people.
There’s other reasons for flying private.
If you didn’t have to arrive 2 hours early to get through Security, nor limit your liquids, nor take off your shoes, nor take out your cat so its carrier can be scanned, nor wait to board the plane, nor wonder if your baggage made it onto your plane, and you could be sure ahead of time that you’d like the food, and the whole airplane would get quiet if you wanted to sleep, and no crying babies unless you bring one… What would you choose?
And there’s definitely people who want to kill her.
But that doesn’t include her mom or her friends or her stage crew or bodyguards or publicity people.