• Bronstein_Tardigrade@lemmygrad.ml
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    3 hours ago

    Republicans snarl and growl, so you’re not shocked when they bite you. Democrats walk up wagging their tail and acting friendly before they bite you. In the end, you still end up bitten.

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    11 hours ago

    Both parties are the same is such a lazy idea.

    There’s definitely one party the accelerates the bad while another tries to fix the damage and make it good again.

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      Neither party is trying to fix any damage, and there was never “good” for the majority of society.

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      11 hours ago

      I don’t completely agree. One party tries to fuck everything up in order to buy up everything on the cheap, while the other party is paid to keep everything exactly as it is, so their owners don’t risk losing anything.

      They’re not the same, but the leadership in both parties are traitors to the people and deserve death.

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          Not really. Look how they fail to stop corruption and actively participate in it. They also do their best to rank any third party left of center. They tried to primary AOC and it really looks like they’re going to split the vote for NYC mayor bc Mamdani doesn’t toe the line.

          One party is disgustingly heinous but that doesn’t mean the other is good. Do I prefer one if I only have two choices? Yes. But they should both go away and take their anti-working class bs with them.

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              Change is impossible under the DNC, if you aren’t going to support a third party, then sounds like you need to join the revolutionaries.

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              There is no change inside the DNC. It is controlled by neo-liberals who will squash any and all progressive ideals…else they would be out there fighting for them. Neo-liberals are about keeping everything the same for their corporate donors, talk about change, do nothing. This is a dead-end, zombie party.

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      11 hours ago

      You have to understand the backing behind these parties and how that informs how they operate. They both are largely funded by capitalists, often the same capitalists. So there are a core set of interests which they both protect. There are issues that don’t fall within that space where they can be different, some issues that affect different donors differently, and they have different strategies for managing to achieve those shared interests, but when push comes to shove they are still going to do what will be good for the capitalists and the power of the state to represent those interests.

      For a narrow example from this meme: Most US presidents have presided over truly awful crimes, some actually illegal, some merely morally criminal, or perhaps criminal on the world stage but not for the US. A just society based on rule of law, as the US claims to be, would prosecute these people for their crimes, whether that be for war crimes, abuses of power, corruption, etc. Ideally while they are in power in order to stop them, but at the very least you’d think that after they leave power there ought to be more political will to go after them, if not for legal or moral reasons, at least for cynical political ones.

      But they basically never do this? Why not? Because those crimes help uphold the interests of capitalists and/or the state. They are mostly part of the set of things that the parties agree on. The next president would like to be able to continue to get away with those or similar crimes, so holding the previous president accountable for their actions risks setting a precedent that would come back to bite them.

      There were criminal proceedings against Trump, but they were for things that are small in the grand scheme of things. Obama didn’t go after Bush for lying to get us to go into an illegal war, or for using torture, or violating civil liberties, etc. because he was doing the same things. Trump didn’t go after Obama for any of this because… he kept doing the same things. Going back to the most famous example of this, Nixon literally did what Trump did in terms of trying to subvert the “democratic process” and Ford pardoned him.

      Basically if you’re president, you can get away with whatever the hell you want as long as it’s for rich people and/or the next guy wants to be able to do the same thing.