My last time talking to them, they were arguing that the use of the word “exploitation” in the vegan society’s definition of veganism simply meant “use” because that’s a thesaurus entry for exploitation. When their argument breaks down they go full on “words are just invented”.
Yeah, thank you for the clarification. Re-reading my comment, I realise I didn’t do a very good job of expressing this, as I didn’t mean to imply V@LW was a community for debate. Just that a polite question might be fine there, so long as it comes from a genuine desire to learn, instead of trying to make an opening to disagree.
Lmao, I didn’t look too closely at the characters and thought it was just Arabic script. That’s super cool!
Is nobody going to comment on the flaming eye key on the numpad? Op, does your keyboard have some sort of scrying mode?
!vegan@lemmy.ml specifically disallows debate style posts. Your best bet is probably either !askvegans@lemmy.ca or !vegan@lemmy.world
When I was a young vegling, I spent some time doing “outreach” on r/DebateAVegan (air quotes because it often felt about as impactful as having a wank), and you’d see those bingo arguments being used earnestly ALL THE TIME.
I actually did occasionally get some fairly novel and thought provoking stuff, from time to time, but mostly it was explaining the basics of biology or econ to people like in OP’s example.
Ah yes. That one is the one where every interlocutor happens to only eat meat “from their uncles farm with 3 cows on 40 acres of pasture, where they’re hand-scrubbed by cherubs while eating figs.”
Ah yeah, I’ve had an interaction with that anti-vegan user before, and let me tell ya, if you want to speedrun vegan bingo… ideal discussion partner right there.
Yeah, sorry 'bout that; that was my bad. I didn’t mention it since you figured out my intent. Looks like me moving my comment might have led to some confused lemmings, though.
Thanks! That’s a big help.
Ok, well I don’t have the book, or links to the studies it’s based on, so that’s not particularly helpful.
I throughly scanned the page for data sources and scholarly papers, and also read some of the major concepts and provided examples. I did not see any further studies or data linked in either of the pages you linked to yourself, but if I did miss something, please feel free to point it out.
Once again, thank you for providing the source data you already did. It’s a fairly complicated dataset, so it’ll take some effort to grok.
I mean, you literally said:
the rest of the information and studies that accompany it,
(Emphasis mine.)
I only saw only one study referenced, which seems to be a book, not an academic paper.
In any case, I appreciate the data sources. I’ll take a look.
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That’s the exact same link I already read. Did you mean to send me something else? There was a link titled “award-winning research” to a $27 book. I wasn’t able to find any further data sources beyond the provided anecdotes. Did I miss something?
(Minor edit for clarity.)
1900-2006? This past century has literally been humanity’s most transformative ever, and this chart is just glomming all the data together. We’d need to see trends of how these have changed over time to get a realistic picture.
I thought we say: we need more flesh for the prison-industrial complex.
Although, sentence length doesn’t seem to be correlated to deterrence, that doesn’t mean the inevitability of imprisonment isn’t a legitimate deterrent at all. For example, the belief that there’s a high likelihood of getting caught does increase deterrence.
It’s kinda ironic that you have to drive slower because you’re half blind, which will end up in the trucknuts enjoyer being slowed as well.
Hypothetically, is there a specific number of billionaires that would have to be executed to have some sort of impact? IMO, even if the rich have just a little incentive not to be the most egregious profiteers, it’ll make some impact.
It’s almost like the same people who own the mainstream media will also profit from a Trump presidency.
Personally, my last holdout on my desktop is VR, and I’d rather not dual boot.
My laptop has been running Linux for years now, although I’ve been having some issues with it lately, possibly due to repeated in-place upgrades, so I’ve been thinking of switching away from mint to a rolling release distro. Although, I have to say, NixOS’s philosophy is really compelling.