Your typing here says you’re still tired.

It is can’t because this is how the door gets pushed open to making more and more paid versions of the operating system.

This invites more capitalistic practices into the “market”, and is what starts the downward trend.

I’m ok with selling software. But selling the OS at all just seems like a big step that should never be taken.

Selling a paid upgrade is kind of a gray area, but it should be an extra piece that gets installed separately, cross-compatible where possible, and shouldn’t affect your ability to upgrade versions for damn sure. I’ve never dealt with it directly, but if it’s like you said and you need to do a complete reinstall to upgrade versions but downgrade from pro to regular, then you’ve already detected the first tumor.

Yeah the entire existence of any “pro” version of anything is cancer.

Lol it kinda is.

It wasn’t meant as a judgement. Just a different way of phrasing how it’s typically used, or generally used. I guess it does kinda sound judgy, tho.

I was raised in a very red place and I am still finding pieces of it left behind after leaving it. In this case, word choice. I really didn’t mean it as any kind of insult or anything, but I really did mean “should” as in “typically”, not “ought to”.

Thanks for the answer. Most boomers I’ve ever known wouldn’t even ask, so I guess I’m still not as bad as them 😅

I am “Internet old” tho.

One time I loved with my roommate… and his ex wife. It was sort of amicable (obviously), but sometimes the arguments weren’t. I usually stayed out of it if possible, but sometimes not.

And sometimes when it was lower stakes I would just poke at them for fun.

Honest question.

I have never heard of (or seen) wearing a belt underneath wear your shirt would cover, and on top of that, not wearing one where it should go.

Am I a boomer, or what is happening? Is this some kinda trend now?

Help me understand.

Lmao

This isn’t meeting the level of importance for me.

If your posting a message that has any importance at all, at least pretend to try to fix your before sending it.

“try, Linux”

“working closing”

I mean come on.

There’s more but you get the point.

We could use more of this feeling.

That’s a sad sentence. I feel sad typing it. I feel sad reflecting on the truth of it. I feel sad every second that I don’t see breaking news of Trump’s (and musk, and (insert every currently elected Republican name here) brutality-record-setting tortuous death.

I wish he could die more than once, just so different kind of pain could be inflicted on him each time.

So yeah, any of you out there that feel this way, please take a trump with you. Take an RFK with you. Take a Boebert with you. Something like that, take at least one.

Maybe the phrasing “nothing in space” was off, but I didn’t mean anything close to planetary orbit.

That said, you seem to have a chip on your shoulder about the definition of weight for some reason, and I’m kinda curious about that.

Oh I’m sure me saying that is interesting from your POV. But I’m agreeing with your point, English does it totally wrong for sure.

And if the -er sound is as rare as you say, then I guess the pronunciation is just implied.

I don’t know exactly why (nor do I care enough to dig into the history of this detail) American English went with “lee-tur” or more casually, “lee-dur”(almost exactly like the word “leader”, but if they had home with spelling it correctly, than it would’ve been pronounced differently.

So it was one thing or the other was gonna be different, simply because we actually do have that sound that makes the spelling look wrong to us.

I think I did get a little offended by the jest, but not consciously or intentionally.

I have learned about the relative rarity of the -er sound in most places. It’s very common in this language, so that’s surprising to me.

I just admitted I did that, appreciated you calling me on it, then write a paragraph explaining I’m working on changing it, and I still get accused of boasting about it?

As for the descriptive vs prescriptive part, I’ve heard of it only as it came up in discussions of another concept (philosophy and religion. They were talking about using one type versus the other as it related to their point, but I didn’t know exactly what they meant, because that wasn’t what was being discussed directly). So yes, I’ve heard of it, but no, I wasn’t really aware of the meaning of it because the concept at hand wasn’t linguistics. Sorry, that wasn’t clear. All I was trying to say was that I’ve heard of the concept, but hadn’t learned what it was about yet. That was probably a poor choice of words.

Either way, having read the wiki page for it now, my main issue is that there really isn’t (in my opinion) a good reason that any language should ever have a spelling that does not match the order of the sounds used to pronounce the word. Yes, that falls under prescriptive here. This doesn’t exactly apply to languages that don’t use an alphabet.

You can throw that opinion straight in the trash if you want. But until I find good reasons to think otherwise, that’s just a statement of the ideal way to spell, if we were still forming the language.

No it’s conscious.

I probably should have said something about it being true with the languages I’ve heard more often.

Things like Spanish, French, Italian… Basically things near where American English came from.

I was and am fully aware that other languages will possibly sound different. The way I said it did sound ignorant though. And with the previous reply, I was assuming they were coming from a European POV. All of that was wrong.

Anyway, add in the “in languages I’ve heard/am familiar with” to that.

I’m aware of the descriptive vs prescriptive concept, but not for linguistics specifically. I’ve got it open in a tab waiting for my next free moment. I’ve spent this one replying.

But you were right to call me out about the order of sounds part. I was assuming a bit. I’m not used to phrasing comments for international audiences 😅. Usually I’m talking to people that would share my perspective and familiarities. In my area I didn’t run into a lot of people that haven’t been from around here. I should get better about this, but changing my own perspective is a challenge. I’m trying.

But nothing has any weight in space.

If we’re talking about the order the sounds are made, “liter” is more correct. I never understood why Europeans spell the “er” sound as “re”. It’s just now how the sound works.

My take is that spelling should reflect the sound. In any language. For every word, every time.

American English makes a ton of errors in this regard, you’ll get no argument from me there (for example any word with “ough” or “augh” is automatically spelled wrong).

I’m sure tons of other examples in pretty much every language make the same mistake. But as far as I can tell, there is no good reason the spelling shouldn’t be a representation of the exact order of sounds that make up the word.

All that to say, even when hearing people who speak all manner of different languages use the word “liter”, not one has ever pronounced it “litre”.

Honestly it should be more like “ledur” for most Americans. We don’t have a habit of the actually making the proper “t” sound very often. But I’m getting into a whole different argument, so I’ll leave that kinda rant for a different time.

The middle in my ass

Maybe “The middle of my ass” would flow better

Fair. This whole thread is unpopular opinions, so it’s kinda natural for most people to disagree with each other.

Thread participation achieved. I’m not even mad. (งツ)ว

I made myself chuckle, too.

You’re welcome.

I don’t think a little buzz is ok either. Driving is dangerous at the best of times. Another reply somewhere in this thread already said it, but there’s no need to make it worse than it has to be.