I see all over Lemmy, people really seem to hate hexbear, and I don’t get it. Can someone explain why most of Lemmy seems to absolutely hate them?
I see all over Lemmy, people really seem to hate hexbear, and I don’t get it. Can someone explain why most of Lemmy seems to absolutely hate them?
One issue I have with hexbear is that you can’t argue with its users on hexbear itself. Most comments from outsiders are deleted within a day, and most of the users aren’t interested in discussions and simply resort to name calling and personal attacks. The more “sophisticated” ones will tell you to “read theory”. The amount of hexbear users actually capable of producing arguments seems to be very low, at least from my experience.
These issues exist on other instances as well of course, but on hexbear its particularly bad. The only other instances this toxic I have interacted with were lemmygrad and exploding-heads.
We’re rude, but argue in good faith all the time. Just requires you to do the same too.
By the way regarding this:
I looked at your post history and you’ve got loads of old comments on hexbear still up. The only removed comments that I could see were when you were getting upset about pronouns existing.
Person bitching about Hexbear is a transphobe. No suprise there
It’s a strictly leftist instance lol (even more so than dbzer0), of course they’ll ban liberals and other right-wingers
Disagree about there not being good discussions on it; I regularly see the more interesting discussions on Lemmy on that instance, so long as you’re acting in good faith.
But Chanel of what they call left is much MUCH narrower than most people think of it.
If you don’t want to get banned you better not only be communist but also authoritharian as can be, you dont only love Marx and lenin, but you better also love Stalin, modern day russia and north Korea.
If you think of yourself as a Marxist communist, but don’t agree with Stalins methods, you’re a “libtard” to them and they won’t even argue with you but only make fun and downvote you (or if on their instance often ban you)
Its the place tankies got to circlejerk, its no place for discussion or sharing/refining of left ideas.
Either you love Stalin like a god or you are a libtard, thats what I have seen from hexbear and lemmygrad users (not that different of clientele from what I have seen)
You’re reading memes as sincere honestly, which I guess is any easy mistake to make. You’re correct about which way we lean but when we’re being serious we’re far more nuanced about AES and socialist historical figures than you imply.
Also, not that ‘authoritarianism’ is a real thing, but we do have a large number of anarchist users alongside our ML majority, and have specific rules in place to protect them against infighting.
Also we’d never say “-tard”. That’s ableist language.
Okay maybe I’m mixing up lemmygrad and hexbear in my head a little bit to much, but alone the “we are very nuanced abut realsocialism, what you mean are just insincere memes, don’t take them seriously” doesn’t fit with the “we always argue in good faith, we are just sometimes not that polite” another hedbear user stated in this thread.
I think for people being tankies you could just dismiss the dumb comments as jokes, as you see quite few of them. When being actually wholeheartedly of the opinion that Stalins way of running a country is bad for not only minorities but everyone else and also inhumane, you get a lot of hate.
Sure you can say all the hate are jokes, all constructive discussion is for real, but that’s making it to easy in my opinion.
The only discussions I head with hexbear people that were productive were the ones where they where on a different instance than their own, and arguing against multiple people, they sometimes made good arguments, but as soon as there where lots of them you would just get buzzwords and name calling along with down voting ton oblivion.
As for the “we are a colorful left scene”, I kinda doubt that… Every time even I mentioned people like horkheimer or ardorno or said that the world isn’t automatically a paradise as soon as someone gets president who calls himself socialist, I got called liberal and right wing and so on.
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Yeah, I don’t agree with them on much in a political sense, but I’ve never really had a problem holding a conversation or debate because I’m not being a shit. And the times that I’ve said something a bit off base, they’ve always tried to confirm if I really meant what I said or if I was misunderstood before any moderation would happen.
You had your comments deleted for being a bigot, jackass.
Hexbear being based as always