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PumpkinDrama@reddthat.com to Asklemmy@lemmy.ml · 1 year ago

Why are socialist and communist countries usually considered more authoritarian than capitalist countries?

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Why are socialist and communist countries usually considered more authoritarian than capitalist countries?

PumpkinDrama@reddthat.com to Asklemmy@lemmy.ml · 1 year ago
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  • Dessalines@lemmy.ml
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    The nordic countries are not socialist:

    • What about social democracy / democratic socialism / the Nordic model? Isn’t Sweden socialist?
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      What about social democracy / democratic socialism / the Nordic model? Isn’t Sweden socialist?

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      Bruh…

      Socialism is economic policy…

      The economic policy of those countries is socialism.

      They are also democracies.

      Like if I asked what kind of car you had you could say “Honda” or “a red Honda”.

      Their not two different answers because one included unrelated information.

      If someone asks what kind of government they have, “democratic socialism” would be correct, because only giving one of the main axises wouldn’t tell the full story.

      But since we’re talking economic systems, the democratic part is superfluous

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        Socialism requires that the workers have democratic control over the means of production. Nordic countries are not socialist, the working class isn’t in control there.

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        Socialism does not refer to welfare states, but control of the Means of Production by the Proletariat.

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        I don’t know why you’re doubling down on your confident incorrectness when you don’t even have Wikipedia-level understanding. The very first sentence from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism

        Socialism is an economic and political philosophy encompassing diverse economic and social systems characterised by social ownership of the means of production, as opposed to private ownership.

        And obviously the question who the state allows to own the means of production is very much political. Economics is politics.

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        Removed by mod

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