(yes, I also see that it says Chinease)

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    11 months ago

    Anyone who even compares a for profit corportation to the world’s largest hostile militaristic dictatorship is an idiot. Both bad, but on completely different scales.

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      11 months ago

      US looks very militaristic to me. It has a very broken democracy, and a history of supporting/causing brutal dictatorships.

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        11 months ago

        The USA hasn’t taken territory since 1946.

        The major reason for the USA being so broken is due to deregulation and corporate greed. Which is a little different in nuance to Authoritarian China.

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          The US doesn’t try. It just bombs the fuck out of anyone worth exploiting production of anything any private exploitator willing to play “business” there wants.

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              Ghastly business, that. Unavoidable, really, and tragic. Anyways, here’s our top stories tonight: the US kills its own population with the most potent designer drugs in history, at a 0% tax revenue! “This is great for the economy”, according to Experts, who warn that the same measures would be “devastating” under Democratic rule.

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          “Um, technically when we lost all those wars for profit and oil, we didn’t seize any land. So, technically, we are the good guys.”

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            Compared to the dictatorship who are in the process of seizing land and committing genocides on their (according to them) own peoples, yes the USA are fucking saints. See this is my exact problem, two bad things are not equivalent but so many people fail to grasp that.

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        The control the Chinese gov has over tiktok is on a different scale compared to Google and the US

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          11 months ago

          Just to play devil’s advocate here, how many military bases has China got in other countries, compared to the US?

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            11 months ago

            How many McDonald’s are there compared to general tso’s chicken?

            Both comparisons are irrelevant. It is about how much control and access China/US have over tiktok/Google and the user data and algorithms.

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      Thank you, this is my viewpoint exactly. We are exploited by both but one is after money, the other is a threat.

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          That’s like saying that Putin couldn’t hurt anyone outside of Russia yet he’s had multiple people killed in foreign countries.

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            Most of us are boring. We’re not oligarchs or investigative reporters, nor hold key posts in government or industry, nor are connected to dissenters. It’s not that he couldn’t but it’s almost impossible to see a scenario where either dictator would have an interest in most of us. I neither control anything they want nor block their way to it

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            Nope. But how can an average TikTok user in USA be threatened by China? Concretely/ literally?

            I honestly think that Trump is a much greater threat to average American than using TikTok.

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          Usually they can’t, but they can blackmail. Usually only if you’re really really deep in anti Pooh territory though. Pooh is vindictive and thin skinned like our spray tan guy. Spray tan could for example, work with Pooh to surveil and jail dissenters. It’s not that China is a threat to an individual American or other foreigner in a Western country per se, but as long as they could potentially leverage your data against you they do have a little threat. For the record Pooh and spray tan should be sent to an island together to… Oh shit nvm usually rich people and islands aren’t a good thing. 😂

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            If you’re someone influential enough to be blackmailed by the Chinese government and you’re using TikTok… You’re really stupid… but average TikTok user, really has nothing to be afraid of China, I think. TikTok is also after money, as far as I know (ads). They are a company. Like Huawei, they might have a close relationship with the Chinese government, similar with Google with the US government.

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        At the very least, Google and Facebook have to step back if caught. Meanwhile, Chinese companies often don’t care about EU privacy laws. Still avoid them altogether, any way.