Couple more optional questions
- Did the decision bring any change to your life ?
- Do you feel the decision stopped you from expressing something at some point ?
My parents both didn’t swear (at least not where I could hear them) so I simply never picked up the habit. I can swear if I make a conscious effort to do so, but generally only find reason to if I am quoting someone or something. And even that feels awkward to me.
As for expressing myself, I don’t believe I have much trouble in that regard. There are a ton of other words available and ways to arrange them. And if I truly need to express anguish, rage, etc. there is always yelling or screaming.
I ~never did and I think it’s a combination of various reasons:
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I’m kinda shy (internally I might use a more offensive language, but I might even censor that too). And the fact that I’m not using such language for so long makes it more awkward to use it now.
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In my family we probably use less vulgar laguange than the typical one, so I wasnt exposed that much on it (on the contrary, I was exposed to way more uncensored content on the internet and that may be why some vulgar phrases in English seem more natural/normal, while the same ones translated in Greek (my mother language) seem more offensive.
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Many times I find it unecessary. I think they’re better used when you’re angry and help you let some steam out, rather than using them in a calm conversation with friends for example (though when others people use them even on me in a friendly way I kinda seem to like it for some reason? I might think we’re close so they feel confident to talk to ke that way?)
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Maybe it’s just one of my quirks, lol. I might just do it, for not much reason.
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I find many (not all!) of the vulgar phrases to discriminate minorities and people in general. I really dont want to use such words. I dont want to cause harm to innocent people just because I got angry.
I could probably think more if I spent more time thinking, hm
Did the decision bring any change to your life ?
As I said, I dont think I ever used such language, so I dont think there’s a change to talk about. Just some people might notice it and possibly comment about it (usually in good faith?)
Do you feel the decision stopped you from expressing something at some point ?
Kinda yes, sometimes I’m in a bad situation and kinda want to, but I dont want those conditions to “break” me. This might not make much sense tho.🤷
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Two reasons:
- I live in Utah, where the Mormons are, and they get very offended by swearing. Although there are some ways in which I will definitely not accommodate their religious beliefs, I also think it’s healthy to meet other people at their comfort level (if it’s reasonable to do so). On the one hand, I understand the idea that we shouldn’t have to change who we are in order to make other people comfortable. On the other hand, I do think that if you take that idea too far, it can be a kind of antisocial behavior. When in Rome, as they say.
- It has more impact if you don’t do it often. Think about a Quentin Tarantino movie. By the time Samuel L. Jackson has said “fuck” for the 157th time, you’re just used to it. The word doesn’t even stand out anymore. But now consider the end of The Princess Bride, which has one swear word in the entire movie: “I want my father back you son of a bitch.” WHA-BAM! Hits like a freight train every time!
For the follow-up questions, kind of the same answer to both of them. I feel like not swearing – or, swearing less – requires me to be more precise when I’m criticizing something. Instead of just saying that something was “like shit”, I have to give a more specific criticism. So that’s the change that it has made, and no, it hasn’t stopped me from expressing something.
I like your second point, I had never thought of it this way. It’s like when your parents call you by your full name. You know you are in trouble.
Just never started.
I haven’t started it in English yet.
I was once being followed and harassed by a woman. I told her to “stay the fuck out of my life”.
Nothing came of it, but when I asked a lawyer about getting a restraining order against her, he told me that she actually had grounds to get an order against me, specifically because I had used the word “fuck” when I said that to her. That word, he said, could be considered evidence in a hearing that I was dangerous to her.
So basically, my primary reason to stop cursing is to avoid triggering special rules (not only legal, but corporate rules as well) that are activated by a person who says those key words.
Getting a restraining order against someone, because they said“stay the fuck out of my life” is so dumb. Sorry, I had to laugh. Hope you sorted that out and can live your life safely.
I am vastly aware of the irony, believe me
I feel like im the opposite from a lot of people in this thread. I very rarely get upset. Like, once a year maybe? Sure, some things annoy me, but they’re rarely worth getting upset about. I think most people see me as a “funny guy” thats easy to be around.
Now I swear a lot, like very alot. And its mostly for comedic purpose or putting that tiny bit of emphasis on something, usually opposite from what i actually mean. Saying something like “a fuckton” usually means i had 2 apples instead of 1, where if i actually had way too many apples i would be more descriptive about it and not swear. People tend to take things more seriously that way.
I think casually swearing can help with not getting upset to begin with while also being more expressive if used correctly. I feel like i can get emphasis on what i say and having some form of relief from just swearing casually, which helps negate the build up of annoyances and eventually actually getting upset.
I very rarely swear in an insulting manner, i find it way more insulting and effective to use words that are very “unharmful” for that purpose, such as calling someone a clown or gnome. In the right setting those are devasting. I dont think it translates very well to english, but just imitating a 10yo and saying “your mom” is also just insanely funny as an insult because of how inherently stupid it is.
I save my profanity for times and things that are truly worth getting upset about. If you use it all the time, then it becomes meaningless. It just becomes background noise and you sound like a 10 year old all the time.
If you swear enough you can completely turn it off when you’re truly pissed and it’s terrifying.
I decided to try to stop swearing in college, to see if it would improve my attitude - and to see if anyone would notice.
Both turned out to be true. People found me pleasant to work with and hang around. I recommend it, personally!
I feel like this belongs here.
I hear what I say and it feels unpleasant.
Also, I don’t like adding senseless* words in my speech.- Unless it’s funny or sth.
I have made a conscious effort to reduce swearing, which has brought my swearing down to near zero, both online and in real life conversation.
I have found that it streamlines the ability to make a point. A lot of swearing is simply thrown in out of habit, and if you remove it, all you do is make your point more clear without losing anything of substance.
I think for many people swearing is a “filler word” in the same way that “umm” can be. I have also worked hard to reduce my other filler word use. My goal with both of these is better articulation.
The next effect is that swearing is normally combated as an extreme use of language for an extreme situation, and when you don’t constantly swear the times that you do actually convey how notable the situation is.
Fuck that bullshit.
Delightful.
What word in that comment is a filler word?
I don’t recall saying every use of a swear is a filler word.
Fuck yeah dude
See, @setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world?
In the comment I’m replying to, the fuck is a filler because it could easily just say ‘Yeah dude’ but the tone would be different.
Then it isn’t a filler. I never said I don’t swear, but have greatly reduced it. One effect is that when used, it retains more punch.
I’m not sure why you’re so invested in debating that people who habitually swear won’t insert swears into unrelated thoughts, but the only support I offer is to listen to someone who habitually swears speak. I don’t want to sound like that, so I make the effort not to.
My choice on how I speak and type doesn’t impose anything on you.
Will Smith famously limits his swearing and doesn’t swear while rapping and next thing you know he’s bitch-slapping Chris Rock.
Trying to self-improve in a method that, regardless of its objective effectiveness, makes you feel satisfied and has no discernable effect on those around you?
Not if I can help it!
I’m glad we could collaborate on this effort and teach people some shit 🤝
I wish I could stop. I bannished a lot of words from my language because they are insults which come from oppressive language sucheas words to insult sex workers or homosexuals. Of course, most of people don’t use them with homophobic motives but the fact that they are insults is really bad imo.
I don’t (or at least try not to) swear around my ma. She doesn’t like hearing them and that’s enough reason for me. Of course every once in awhile I may drop one every once in a while purposefully, for the little kick of annoying my ma. I share some of her sentiment though. In general I think swearing can be a bit vulgar/unpleasant, so I don’t necessarily try to swear at every opportunity, but I do when I’m not around her.
I suggest moderation and good taste in these matters
I enjoy the exercise of trying to think ahead of the words coming out of my mouth so I can speak more concisely and clearly. It’s the same reason I do calligraphy.
motherfucker would look great in some nice calligraphy
If you can do calligraphy ahead of the words coming out of your mouth then I am thoroughly impressed.
No calligraphy is for writing slowly and deliberately. It has helped me immeasurably