I might have misunderstood the context. I took OPs post to mean the sandwich will eventually become 15 dollars, not that they are currently. So I took the post I replied to as indifferent to that future suffering. Was I mistaken?
Honestly, yes. We need to learn how to make do with less. We can indulge when times are good, but some people just splurge in good times instead of saving and struggle to make do in bad times.
How much less though? Would you still be ok than less than the bare minimum to survive? How about at the bare minimum to survive? How long should we be put at that level?
I ask because most suffering today is caused by decisions made by people in power, not natural cycles.
A reasonable amount less. A small home, using public transit or specifically choosing a more fuel efficient vehicle, cooking instead of eating out constantly… I’m not saying we should be having less than necessary to survive, and wages are too low, but also good financial decision making goes a long way and learning to tighten your belt makes you more self reliant
Oh absolutely no sucking humanity out of things. More is learning to live within our collective means and learning to make that enjoyable and beautiful. And that includes making sure even affordable housing is clean, sufficient, and provides access to green spaces and the opportunity to garden.
Yes let me just grow all the food I need and raise a cow for milk and a sheep to get wool for making my own clothes on my 4’x8’ balcony at my one bedroom apartment.
Not all of us, and I’d argue very few of us proportionally speaking, have all kinds of land to be able to do shit like that. Check your privilege, dude
Yeah y’all need to learn how to be self-sufficient! Look at the people surviving during the Great depression. That’s how we all need to be.
What tf kind of lame ass strawman is that? News flash: its usually cheaper to prepare your own food. Film at 11.
I might have misunderstood the context. I took OPs post to mean the sandwich will eventually become 15 dollars, not that they are currently. So I took the post I replied to as indifferent to that future suffering. Was I mistaken?
Honestly, yes. We need to learn how to make do with less. We can indulge when times are good, but some people just splurge in good times instead of saving and struggle to make do in bad times.
How much less though? Would you still be ok than less than the bare minimum to survive? How about at the bare minimum to survive? How long should we be put at that level?
I ask because most suffering today is caused by decisions made by people in power, not natural cycles.
A reasonable amount less. A small home, using public transit or specifically choosing a more fuel efficient vehicle, cooking instead of eating out constantly… I’m not saying we should be having less than necessary to survive, and wages are too low, but also good financial decision making goes a long way and learning to tighten your belt makes you more self reliant
I can agree with that. As long as we aren’t unnecessarily sucking the humanity out of things, I’m good with it.
Oh absolutely no sucking humanity out of things. More is learning to live within our collective means and learning to make that enjoyable and beautiful. And that includes making sure even affordable housing is clean, sufficient, and provides access to green spaces and the opportunity to garden.
Yes let me just grow all the food I need and raise a cow for milk and a sheep to get wool for making my own clothes on my 4’x8’ balcony at my one bedroom apartment.
Not all of us, and I’d argue very few of us proportionally speaking, have all kinds of land to be able to do shit like that. Check your privilege, dude
I should have added a /s to my reply.
Haha no worries man, you can never tell these days