• TOModera@lemmy.world
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    20 days ago

    I can speak to this (Canadian, we have Thanksgiving in October, i get high because parts of my family are hard right Conservatives): If I get stoned for dinner (after preparing dinner), I don’t feel like shit when people rag on the food or bring up trash political takes. Being high makes me calmer.

    Also I don’t care if people know I’m high, so that helps.

    If I do stay sober, I have to hear how minorities are ruining the country and be accused of poisoning people by not making a healthy meal… which makes me anxious.

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      20 days ago

      Do you worry that the weed impairs your ability to produce effective counterarguments? Drag wouldn’t want to go into a situation like that without being on drag’s A game. Thanksgiving can be one of your few chances each year to argue with your relatives, so drag tries very hard to avoid wasting it.

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        19 days ago

        Changing relatives minds can be far more difficult than changing strangers minds. I would not hold it against an activist who doesnt argue with family. Also thanksgiving is not the time for it really, its easier to deflect into silly jokes or tangents that have nothing to do with politics, and then say bye see you next year.

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          19 days ago

          What’s the point of staying in touch with fascist relatives if you’re not trying to deradicalise them? The relationship has no other value.

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            19 days ago

            I’m not sure Thanksgiving counts as staying in touch, but family gatherings are meant to be inclusive, and Thanksgiving specifically is for setting aside differences (theoretically at least).

            I suppose it depends what you mean by deradicalizing them? I’d say calling them names is a bad start but maybe you are more polite in person.

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              19 days ago

              Thanksgiving specifically is for setting aside differences

              Drag supposes that’s why it didn’t lead to lasting peace between the Americans and the invaders. Ignoring your differences doesn’t actually solve problems. Thanks for explaining the fundamental problem with Thanksgiving.

              Drag thinks even if the holiday has a legacy of failure, it could still be transformed into something worthwhile if we all put in some work. Maybe one day Thanksgiving could be about discussing and resolving your differences.

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                19 days ago

                I have no idea what thanksgiving meant hundreds of years ago. I’m aware that the natives and colonizers did not get along great back then but that has nothing to do with thanksgiving today.

                Today, its generally about getting together and having a nice meal and giving thanks (being positive).

                Also, the day being worthless for you, only affects you. It still has worth for everyone else who assign it worth. You haven’t stumbled upon some universal fact, its just an opinion.

                You likely could find people who share your opinion and get together with them and all have some sort of Thanksgiving group debate if you’d like.