The Threadiverse is growing again, this time offering an effort to build a new Lemmy replacement from scratch, with API compatibility.

Seems like an interesting effort. A developer is building an alternative Java-based backend to Lemmy’s Rust-based one, with the goal of building in a handful of different features. The dev is looking at using this compatibility to migrate their instance over to the new platform, while allowing the community to use their apps of choice.

  • bdonvr@thelemmy.clubEnglish
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    11 months ago

    What missing features are so important that you decide to recreate the entire backend of Lemmy because you think the devs aren’t fast enough?

    • Ghostalmedia@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      11 months ago

      Java instead of Rust is going to be a big thing for a lot of people who would like to contribute in their spare time. Yeah, Rust is cool, but every CS grad and their mother knows Java.

      Back during the migration surge a few months ago, you commonly saw a LOT of comments from folks saying they would love to help eat away at the project’s backlog, but they just didn’t have the time or energy to learn Rust at the moment.

      • Amaltheamannen@lemmy.mlEnglish
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        11 months ago

        Any recent CS grad is obsessed with rust, trust me. It’s not hard to learn either with that background.

      • P03 Locke@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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        11 months ago

        Yeah, Rust is cool, but every CS grad and their mother knows Java.

        Sure, twenty-five years ago, when Sun was pushing their language hard into colleges everywhere.

        Now? Sun Microsystems doesn’t even exist, and everybody hates the JVM in an ecosystem where VMWare, Docker, and Kubernetes do the whole “virtual machine” model much better.

        • Cosmic Cleric@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          11 months ago

          Now? Sun Microsystems doesn’t even exist

          That was a long, long, long time ago.

          Java has continued to be very popular after Oracle purchased Sun Microsystems.

        • uranibaba@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          11 months ago

          Can’t say I agree. It feels like an almost even 50/50 split between Java and C# when I look at job postings.

      • ComradeKhoumrag@infosec.pubEnglish
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        11 months ago

        I think rust is a very pragmatic choice, lemmy is decentralized, the security benefits are a necessity when it comes to self hosters donating hardware

          • Dessalines@lemmy.mlEnglish
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            11 months ago

            After working in java for over a decade, I will never use another garbage-collected language if I can avoid it again. I still have nightmares about debugging memory build-ups and having to trace down where to do manual garbage collection. I remember my shop eventually just paid for 32 GB ram servers, and java filled those up too.

            Rust doesn’t have these problems because its not a garbage collected language like java or go, and has an ownership-based memory model that’s easy to work with.

              • Dessalines@lemmy.mlEnglish
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                11 months ago

                Garbage collection is by nature imperfect, its impossible for it to always be correct about when and what things to free up in memory. The best option is to not use a garbage collected language.

            • kaffiene@lemmy.worldEnglish
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              11 months ago

              That wasn’t a memory safety issue, that was a what the fuck were you thinking design issue. It would have been batshit in any language

      • SorteKanin@feddit.dkEnglish
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        11 months ago

        Yeah, Rust is cool, but every CS grad and their mother knows Java.

        This is quite an outdated view I would say.