Just some additional advertising for todays boycott.
European here. So how did this go yesterday? News coverage?
What are you guys trying to achieve?
Mindless consumption will happen for the entirety of human civilisation. Übercorps will continue to enshitttify to no end, and people will eat the slop until it runs dry.
Why? Because deep down consumerism is a key pillar in people’s minds. The idea of buying and consuming is an act that must be compleeted, like it’s part of the Ten Commandments or the ending to a Fitr prayer. You see so much of this anti-consumerism rhetoric on social media but I guarantee that everyone in this thread bought something before, after or even on February 28, including the author of this poster.
The reality is, you have no power. People will continue to keep the slop mill running. Unless you want to start a mass brainwashing campaign and completely destroy the world’s economy, useless consumption will remain as a pillar of our society for centuries. This blackout achieved nothing, and further protests and blackouts will not do anything to change the system.
What’s the alternative? We live off the land? We completely stop trade? We live in a solarpunk fantasy that will never be achieved? Sometimes I think of alternatives to combat capitalism, but they always turn out to be 10 times worse.
You can make an impact on yourself, change what you do and consume, but 99% of the population will continue to praise Übercorps and be their personal shitter, making food for flies.
So… anything is a comic strip nowadays it seems.
One day won’t do much. I took it as a sign it was time to delete the Amazon and Walmart app from all my devices and move onto other services.
I work at a Costco in Western Canada. Today (28th) was a little slower than slower than normal, but well inside the normal ups and downs we see. All of us are curious to see if the 1st is busier to make up for it.
I didn’t know about this and still participated by accident. What I’m trying to say is that if 1 day counts as boycott I’m severely concerned by the overreliance the general public has on those companies.
I don’t get this plan.
Even if people don’t shop one day, they will buy postponed items next day.
You are organizing the wrong thing, you need to build a platform and a troll farm.
If anyone is interested this was apparently started by a group called The People’s Union. I get that 1 day isn’t that impactful in the grand scheme of things, cuz it’s not. But it’s about organization. It’s about coordination.
It only Bugs them if enough people stoppen getting specific stuff alltogether. Like no Nestlé, Selling the car and stop the need for Gas (if possible of course).
One day off is just another days top. Doesnt hurt them at all.
So we dont buy anything for one day and then go back to ordering on amazon and that will have an effect on… something. Ok got it. Idiots.
It’s supposed to be baby steps towards concrete action.
Kind of like if a smoker goes a whole day without smoking. Yea in the long run it’s not gonna make a difference, but it’s a start towards breaking the addiction.
HEY YOU’RE RIGHT! The people organizing and participating in this believe that this one day of action will solve every abstract problem that exists! I also have simplistic understanding of protest and goals! I also prefer to be snarky at anyone attempting to voice dissent towards the insanity happening in our country!
I’m really sorry to go over the top here, but seriously, there’s no fucking handbook for what we’re going through right now. There’s no questgiver telling us concrete steps to take down objectively evil people. There’s just people trying to figure out how to connect with each other and how to collectively voice dissent. Maybe we should give more credit to people doing imperfect things than to those doing nothing other than pointing out how imperfectly those things are.
The snarky attitude is totally uncalled for, and you’re arguing a point nobody has made.
Nobody has said this will solve everything, but this isn’t a new idea, and I’ve yet to see any evidence it solves anything at all.
Even if we did get a statistically significant number of people to take part, they’ll just buy shit the next few days after instead.
If you want to get people on board, you need to provide some evidence it will actually do something at all
As expected, nothing came of this. Don’t be pathetic. Stop buying from red states and wacko Trump supporters everyday.
how so. have you been at the meetings? Even the companies won’t bee looking over the data till monday earliest.
Companies look at quarter to quarter metrics. NO company of any size looks at day-to-day metrics.
This is the first I’ve seen and I’m on Lemmy several times a day every day. 11:16pm Feb 28th. Another said they first saw it at 10:30pm.
Stop buying from red states
how am I supposed to do that? The nearest blue state is 8 hours from me
Stop buying from red states
No wheat? Even imported Italian pasta is made from American Durum wheat. (Yes Italian pasta companies import US wheat, make pasta from it and then sell it as Italian.)
Shit, I wasn’t on here. Tell you what, make another Devil’s Panties Blackout in six months. We encourage people to stock up on canned foods that can be eaten later, and bathroom items, soaps, whatever. Friend groups are established for the blackout just in case somebody loses something. It might last more than a week, maybe even a month. We should post this in streamers’ chats to encourage people to spread the word; this will be on fun streams where it will not be intrusive. Make sure to target people who can remember to do things, or use it as an opportunity to help people to remember schedules. People will stay with each other to get along.
The comic has nothing to do with it outside of supporting it in todays comic. Here is a better reference for the actions https://moist.catsweat.com/m/Resist@fedia.io/t/880512/Upcoming-US-Protests
Who organizes this shit??? Can I learn about this ahead of time so I don’t see the post literally at 10:30 on the night of the same day??
Like literally
ive seen this promoted all over the place for weeks
Huh, guess I need to tweak my Lemmy feed then
Do you know about the nationwide general strike on March 14th?
There’s also a national protest on march 4th, check out !50501@piefed.social for more info!
Subscribed! I didn’t know 50501 was on the Fediverse
I think it’s a grassroots effort here, as 50501 seems to only be targeting mainstream social media according to their website.
Who’s organizing it? Is the UAW involved? Last time I heard, plans for the next general strike including nationwide unions were set for 2028
Until I see the UAW, USW, AEU, ASFCME, or CAW get involved it’s not a general strike. Keep up the effort, but to anyone actually organizing these things you need to get large labor unions on your side. Otherwise no one will notice.
As someone with a french background, I’m laughing my ass off.
No Restaurants? What? We’re afraid the authentic turkish food place down the block is colluding with Trump, now? Idiocy.
Yeah dude didnt you hear? If you dont spend money at your local mom & pop shop trump will get impeached
boycotts dont work but ill support any attempt at it, sure.
boycotts dont work
South African apartheid was brought down by a boycott. Another example is the Montgomery bus boycott initiated by Rosa Parks which ended in integrated buses.
Of course, these boycotts lasted for longer than one day. I think if there’s enough participation in this single-day boycott, somebody will come up with one that’s more sustained.
Exactly. Withholding consumption is not where our collective power is. Withholding Labor is where our collective power is. These “consumer power” movements are so incredibly capitalist brained. Our working class is so brain rotted by capitalism that they can only think of “power in the hand of consumers” which is one of the biggest most obvious lies capitalist tell.
I once read a quote by someone that went roughly like “Voting with your wallet means the ones with the biggest wallets get the most votes” and it has stuck with me ever since.
This implies your power only extends to the company you work for. How are we going to change companies with workers outside of our collective interest? How are we going to change Twitter, we aren’t going to be able to convince the well paid workers over there to strike because there creating a right wing propaganda machine. How are we going to change companies that exploit labor in the third world? If everyone in the u.s. who worked for temu strikes they could still manufacture and send there cheap plastic over here through the mail.
Your individual power extends to your company. The power of unions extends throughout all of industry. It’s why major unions are trying to organize a general strike for 2028. Yes. 2028. And even that is incredibly soon given all the work that needs to be done.
Twitter is not only comprised of “well paid” class traitors. What do you think happens when the people that clean the server rooms don’t show up? What happens when the garbage collection at Twitter doesn’t show up?
The dock workers union alone was able to get a deal recently just as the threat of a strike. We don’t need the support of every single worker (though every one helps. Even the software engineers as they fundamentally share the same class interest). We need an expansive organization, strike funds, and a clear set of demands. This is what is being organized. But every single union that forms gives us more collective power. Yes, even the ones as your small business of 10 employees.
Boycotts do work. Starbucks has actually had to admit their sales went down due to the boycott. The problem is that these things take time and doing a boycott for a day or a week doesn’t really impact these corpos bottom line where they actually notice.
Yeah their sales went down, but did it change anything about the way they do business?
Not yet, but I don’t plan on stopping
Cool, just don’t mistake mobilization for actual organizing.
It’s different when targeting a specific business as that kind of boycott can continue indefinitely. A boycott against spending any money or going to any business can only last so long and therefore companies will see a downturn and then probably a spike in sales as people buy a bunch of stuff at once that they were planning to buy during the boycott. I agree with the other comments that organizing workplaces to eventually form the base for a real general strike would be a more effective strategy to actually hurt businesses.
It’s totally possible to never shop at any of these big businesses again.
Maybe not possible for everyone, but for many if not most.
Those small businesses you shop at still get their products from big businesses at the end of the day. Or their workers who you’re paying by shopping there will spend money at big businesses. It won’t significantly affect the engine that is the economy at the end of the day. Consumer choice only works against specific businesses you can target which if you wanted to have a campaign to for example not to shop at big chain grocery stores that could be good. If anything though that’s another mixed message I’ve seen with this event, is it no spending in general like what a lot of the original fliers for the event said or is it just no spending at big businesses? Either way if your goal is to shut down the economy to show businesses and the government that the people don’t want what Trump is doing then you’re gonna be much more effective through unions and shutting down workplaces through strikes. If your goal is instead to punish businesses that support Trump that can work depending on the business but needs to be more targeted and there are a lot of companies that even if you try to boycott you’ll still end up supporting them indirectly.
again these are initial salvos. they will notice a massive dip for one day. there are other more targeted ones.
Ok, but what is a massive drop in sales? $100K, $1 billion, $1 trillion? Because Bezos makes $26 million per day, so for them to notice we need to create between $100 million to $1 billion loss, but also we can’t just go immediately back to normal afterwards because they are expecting this.
Its going to depend on the company. The main thing is when they present their powerBI graph that the dip is significant. This would be divisional as well because I believe most of amazons profits now come from aws but not 100% on that but they will have a team that talks just about orders from the site I assure you.
