• Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
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    9 months ago

    My 4-5 year old OnePlus 8T phone has 256GB storage… Are you fucking kidding me, Apple? Can you at least try?

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      OnePlus had 128gb as their base config until the 12 was released a few months ago. The specs for the OP 7 through 11 all had a base 128gb config.

      A lot of phone manufacturers still have 128 as the base config (like Google). That said, they don’t charge $1000 for that base config. They’re usually $150 to $200 cheaper.

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        Yeah, but if this is apple, and today, then well… It’s actually on par for apple, pay twice the amount of money for twice lower specs, lower quality, harder (near impossible) to repair, it just looks nice and shiny, is all.

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    9 months ago

    The ad says “Lots of storage FOR PHOTOS”, specifically.

    If we assume that the typical iPhone photo is 4MB (they’re almost always less), and you use half your storage for photos, ((128/2)*1024)/4 is 16,384 photos.

    I’d argue that’s quite a lot.

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      9 months ago

      My photo library is like 300GB (although I suppose I take a significant amount of video). I also have 30GB of downloaded music. 128GB is really not enough.

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            No, that’s what iCloud photos is for :) not sure why I’m being downvoted, it was my intention to say 128 is enough for most - including me.

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              As far as I can tell, the size is designed to make sure you buy iCloud space. Just another monthly charge for a company needing impossible infinite growth to keep investors happy.

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              I’ll hazard a guess, because we are talking about physical storages on the phone and not cloud storage. In your case, 128 is not enough if you keep it in your phone.

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      I’d argue your counting is flawed. That storage is used for OS, updated applications, caching, system data, videos, music you listen to, etc. When you buy 128GB you never get more than 100, and it only keeps getting smaller the more you use it. And iPhone’s default video FPS is 60. See how many of those can fit on that storage.

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      Idunno if technically correct is the best route to go here. But sure, if you wanna defend more bs marketting from a huge ass company, you go.

      Lemme explainw hy the rest of us find this a little dumb to see. Iphone is famous for being the best phone in the world at recording video, which is not nearly as small, especially at high resolutions.

      For context, a 4k60fps video is 400MB per minute, which would fill up the phone in less than 5 and a half hours. You can record less than four of your kids soccer games with that. If you go with 4k24fps (135MBpm), you can get 948 minutes of video which is 11 soccer games. You’ll probably get most of your kids soccer games, but you’ll have to dump the video if they get to the playoffs.

      If you got noticably shitty quality at 720p30fps, (why would you do that on the phone camera with the arguable best video recordings in the world?!) you get 53 hours of video recording time.

      Look, its a lot compared to vhs, which could do up to 240 minutes, or vhs-c, (the mobile vhs) which could do up to 60 minutes of video.

      It’s a lot compared to phones from ten years ago, even. But it sure as fuck is not a lot when you compare it to literally any other phone from the same price bracket and age range. Thats the point. The storage is fucking average compared to competitors. If you use the phrase ‘a lot of storage’ you damn well better be doing at least twice what your competition is doing for me to agree with you.

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        Who in God’s name sits down to watch a replay of their kid’s soccer game that they already saw live, and recorded in its entirety in stunning 4k for some reason?

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          Who in God’s name sits down to watch a replay of their kid’s soccer game that they already saw live

          lmao, soccer moms showing it off to their grandparents or adding one or two cuts into a graduation video, etc. Basic family shit. If I buy a phone with the best video camera possible, I want to be able to record jimmy’s birthday parties, jane’s soccer games, and whatever else theyre doing without having to stress about which kid is more important to show to grandma at the end of the month because i’m low on space.

          You’ve missed the point though. The specific example is generic and not meant to be taken literally.

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        It’s really your choice to buy the model you need and can afford. Apparently enough people do that they know exactly where to price their models.

        They do have marketing people employed that are far more experts than you and me how to squeeze customers for maximum profit. If people weren’t buying low storage models, they wouldn’t make them.

        Since they are, they’re obviously selling them. My parents regularly buy the lower storage models quite happily.

        So I’m not sure what point you’re making? They should cut back on their profits because “some reasons” or for the good of the world? lol no.

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          128gb is average. That’s my point. iphone ads are getting shit on because they called 128gb ‘lots of storage’. It’s not ‘lots’. It’s average.

          well, that, and it’s apple, and everyone loves to hate those guys.

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            9 months ago

            I think it can be lots of storage for some.

            It’s marketing after all. Manufactured angst just doesn’t sell. Sorry.

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              I can’t agree with you. If someone promises to give me ‘a lot’ of anything, and then gives me an average amount, i’m going to call them out on it.

              If someone handed you a regular glass of water and told you it was ‘a lot’ of water, you’d think they were an idiot.

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      It is a lot. I have now 48/64 GB storage used on my iPhone from 2020. Photos/apps are also offloaded to iCloud to save local storage, the system automatically helps you. I sat down once to delete big unused videos or multiple photos, but other than that I don’t actively manage it

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        I did the same thing, 64 GB, offloaded photos to iCloud, it worked for about 2 years, then it became a constant struggle for the next 2 years. Could not install updates unless I deleted a bunch of apps first. Let iOS manage which apps are installed? Great idea, flawed in execution. It would delete apps that I never open but are necessary for some Shortcuts to run. Also the apps themselves don’t use that much space, it’s the data they store. Now I have 256 GB. I think 128 might be fine but I thought the same thing with 64 GB back then.

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      Right? My Pixel is also 128GB. I’ve got like 5 or 6 thousand Spotify songs, 3 gigs in my pocket casts cache, about 10 gigs of emulated games and dozens of apps and games. If you’re struggling with 128 gigs on your phone, clean some shit off there. I’ve still got 30 gigs free.

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        9 months ago

        The solid state storage in your average iPhone or high end android phone is a LITTLE BIT different from a shitty thumbdrive

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          Not really. Slightly faster? Sure. Hundreds of dollars faster? Absolutely not. You can get fast thumb drives for only a slight premium over the cheapest ones, which aren’t even that slow these days. They’re all solid state storage, dunno why you made that distinction.

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            A cheap off-brand SATA SSD is infinitely better than any USB flash drive. Storage in phones is insanely better than standard SATA SSDs. What are you even talking about?!

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    128 GB has been more than enough for me for over 8years ? I haven’t gotten a phone with more than that… I am currently at 72GB/128GB storage and most of that is Apps. I do go and archive photos and videos off my phone from time to time however.

    If you NEVER delete anything, sure, you will run out. Or if you are super heavy into photos and video maybe but it is still A LOT of storage on a phone.

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      One hour of 360 video is roughly 60GB. Process that video and export it and you get a lot of data as well. I would not call it being super heavy on video to have one hour of source material on your phone, which you could not do right now.

      360 photos are roughly 150MB each.

      Storage is cheap, but sold at a very high mark-up.

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        I’d say you’re probably a minority nowadays with music stored locally. More and more people have moved to some kind of streaming platform.

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          I know, but so much of the music I enjoy is not found on streaming services, and I already had 1000+ albums in my collection by the time they came out, all rated and organized. Plus I travel a lot and don’t always have data, so streaming services don’t really work for me. I pay one for the family but hardly use it myself.

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    Stop taking photos of every meal you have and you’ll be fine. If the battery didn’t wear out, I would still be on 64GB now and use maybe 3/4 of it, max

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      “Stop using the device you paud more a thousand dollara for. Then you can admire it from a distance and not run into manufactured problems”.

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    We’ve finally reached a point where I have more storage than I need on my devices. But I pay way too much for it. Apple needs to stop embarrassing themselves with storage and RAM on entry model devices.

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    I really enjoy my Apple devices, but to call 128GB a lot is ridiculous. Storage has absolutely stagnated. It’s 2023, these phones should be coming with 256 or 512GB for the insane price they cost. iPhones shoot 4K60 HDR video now, that space is hardly enough. Good for getting you onto an iCloud plan, though.

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    If they make the storage small on the phone then people are more likely to subscribe to their cloud storage solution and pay more money!!

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    Maybe I’m in the minority, but I treat my phone like an old school digital camera. I routinely use Image Capture to export my photos/videos to my computer and/or external HDD. I’ve got a 256GB phone, but I’m never using more than 1/5 of its storage space at any given time

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    9 months ago

    My Android device has 128GB of internal storage, and I still could not imagine not having a MicroSD slot for additional storage.

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    If only there was some kind of expandable storage slot that I could add a terabyte for like 50 bucks. One u just pop in and pop out that’s like the size of a fingernail…Maybe we’ll make some kind of technology like that one day. I’m sure the good folks at Apple aren’t just scamming every fart smelling consumer by telling them the storage they pay extra for is reasonably priced.

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      I know you’re being facetious but not gonna lie, the progression from a 5.25" 1.2MB floppy to a modern micro SD card with a practically infinitely bigger amount of storage is one of the things that blows my mind most about how much technology has evolved

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      Well, they don’t want to because fans will gladly pay 200$ or more for extra 128GB and call them revolutionary.

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    9 months ago

    My 13 Mini is 128gb. I’ve had it a year and it still has 20gb of free storage.

    128gb would suck ass in a MacBook, but in a phone it’s fine for most users.