While we can be pretty confident that Reddit has its own motivations (i.e. self-interest) for fighting these lawsuits, this is still a good news story for pirates.

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    Food for thought: Lemmy instance admins probably can’t afford $800 an hour corporate attorneys to fight off subpoenas.

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      Food for though: In the US judges have ruled on multiple occasions that an IP address doesn’t actually prove what individual engaged in the act.

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        Might I direct you to the huge flaming catastrophe of bullshit known as “the police don’t give a fuck lol”. All they need to do is make it difficult, costly and time consuming to win and fuck you once you get hit with charges. And would you look at that, the US legal system specializes in all 3 of those! How convenient.

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          Police can arrest you, but they don’t run the courts.

          Ie you get brought in on bogus charges and if the only evidence is a number that isn’t admissable as evidence you would likely see a mistrial.

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        Doesn’t matter, these are unpaid volunteers standing up instances. Most, if not all, have no desire to fight that battle on their own dime.

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          That’s why it does matter.

          Even if they get the IP addrsss from an instance, they can’t use it for anything.

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              It kinda does if a judge has decided that an IP address does not identify who the offender was and thus is not enough evidence to bring a case against someone.

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                I feel like I don’t need to explain to folks around here that companies will lawyer up and basically use the legal system to harass and intimidate regardless if they have standing or not if they think you are small enough to be bullied into stopping a behavior. Which I assure you your average instance admin is.

        • Trollception@lemmy.world
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          They sure as hell will find money for an attorney if they are being sued for 10s or 100s of thousands of dollars.

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            They’ll need one but that doesn’t mean they will be able to afford one. The point of these lawsuits is to intimidate, even if they don’t win, if people see lives ruined because of the cost to defend, they’ll be scared into not pirating. This is a fear campaign.

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        If that is really how you do it, you won’t need to fry it, it will happen soon enough by itself.

        • Cinner@lemmy.worldB
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          Seriously. Lemmy is a house made of patchwork quilt, with a bit of pine sap here and there to steady the few boards.

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      Would be a real shame if my instance’s logrotate was set to, say, only keep a few days of webserver logs. Real shame.

      Good luck establishing precedent with that!

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      Oh. They sued an instance? 😱
      Anyway… here’s another 5 hosted in Russia, or a country where piracy is legal, or just don’t give a fuck.