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    I’m literally taking a break from planning a 2-week Japan trip in the fall and have been stressing all day because our translator (my weaboo friend who just so happens to actually be a native speaker) dropped out of the trip this morning, so I went to Lemmy to relax for a second and this was the first post I saw

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      Google lens and Google translate does a really good job at translation.

      A lot of signs are in English.

      If you’re really concerned, this book is really great “Japanese Point-and-Speak Phrasebook”

      Source: I was there last year.

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        Those worked great for me when I was in Japan. Google Maps was also great for getting around, it would have been really hard to navigate without it.

        The hardest part was navigating services. It was really hard to figure out how to get IC cards and cell service, and getting online tickets was a nightmare dealing with horribly buggy websites. I normally like to plan things on the fly when I travel, but for Japan I really recommend doing research ahead of time and getting tickets for things you want in advance.

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        “Japanese Point-and-Speak Phrasebook”

        I’ve been seeing this title come up a lot in my planning. This comment might be the thing that pushes me to getting it!

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          Haha I thought the same, like it was some hail corporate thing. But I saw it in a bookstore, and I absolutely love it. The writer is a Japanese native and just really passionate.

          Best of luck on your travels!

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      Unless you are planning to do something very specific that requires a lot of verbal communication, you don’t need a translator to enjoy two weeks in Japan.

      Put a translator app on your phone (one that works without an internet connection) and get a pocket guide of common phrases. The Japanese will largely respect that you are trying to communicate in their language, and you’ll find quite a few who understand English.

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      People are very friendly there, and many speak some amount of english, especially in Tokyo. A lot of signs have English translation on them too. Learn some polite phrases and try your best, and use a translator app if needed. You will do just fine!

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        This is what I’ve been hearing a lot. Still, it seems a bit rude to go there without anyone in our party who can fluently communicate. I suppose I’ve got plenty of time to brush up on some simple polite phrases!

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      Went there myself for a 10 day trip last year and bought a 14 day sim card for about $40 that covered translation using google lens. Also Tokyo is extremely English friendly with subtitles literally everywhere even road signs

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      You don’t need any sort of translators. Just make sure to do your research first. You’ll be fine (travelled there twice).

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        You don’t need any sort of translators.

        If they’re looking to hit up the countryside I’d still recommend some translation. Luckily, just throwing stuff into google translate works pretty well these days.

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      Last time I was there was a long time ago, but even google maps in japan was in japanese!

      Luckily some police officers speak some english.

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      Pro tip: if you’re not a weeaboo, Japan is pretty boring and stuffy. Speaking from experience.

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        Or youre into, food, alcohol, winter sports, warfare, or beatiful country side.

        Japan has some the finest representations of the listed items in the world, and for some of those categories arguably the best.

        Japan isnt just anime and cringe.

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        Not a weaboo insofar as I don’t like anime, but I love contemporary Japanese architecture/Japandi design and their denim culture. The rest of the people in our group all have their own interests in going. I’m not particularly worried about not enjoying the trip, but losing our resident duoglot has killed a bit of my excitement

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          I lived in Japan for a year and I was under a microscope for a few months until they were sure I wasn’t a fetishizing weeb. My hosts and people I met had many ways of working these inquiries into the conversation. But it became clear very soon that weebs looove Japan, but most Japanese I met don’t love them back.

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    We can shit on Google for a lot of things, but if you travel to Japan, you’ll be thankful for Google lens and Google maps. Lens because it can translate whatever you point it at, and maps because it can figure out which subway route to take.

    Also install a IC card reader app so you can check your balance before getting stuck somewhere.

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      An ic reader helps if you’re not actively paying attention. When you swipe your card it gives you the balance too for those who don’t know. I recommend getting a suica card at the airport and just load it up, you can use it for all sorts of travel vehicles, shops and vending machines. Including at the airport on the way home, no reason to just load it with 10 bucks at a time. I just chucked 50 bucks on there for my couple week stay. Google maps is actually amazing for the trains. Takes a sec to figure it out but it’s great.

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      I think Filthy Frank once made an episode teaching you how to say stuff like “I eat pussy.” I’ll just rewatch that shit, and I’m golden.

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    Give it about a year and a half, and everyone who said “I’d never wear smart glasses, that’s a stupid idea” will be ready to plunk down the money for that shit, when they can literally put live subtitles in your field of vision, 100 percent perfectly, in real time, guaranteed.

    Shit will be like the universal translator, in Star Trek. People won’t even bother trying to learn each other’s languages, anymore. Motherfuckers will be married for fifteen years, and literally just talk to each other with their translator glasses on, the whole time. Then if there’s an extended power and internet outage, they’ll be like “oh, shit…without the live subtitles, all we’re gonna be able to do is dirty sex talk and asking each other where the bathroom is.”

    Shit, that’ll mean even more extra babies conceived during blackouts than usual.

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      They never took off because they marketed it poorly. Just partner up with Dragonball Z and make them look like scouters and they’ll sell out immediately.

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        fair way off perfect translation

        Not perfect, but a lot of translation is scary good these days. Of course there may be times when errors get introduced, so for precise communication you’d need human review, but you can throw college level essays into something like https://deepL.com and a lot of times you’d never know the difference.

        The days of “this is obviously badly machine translated” are pretty much gone.

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        I mean, it’s pretty easy to dismiss this desire, but our chain foods in other countries can be quite unique. You can have a burger and a sauna in Finland at a McDonalds. A beer in Germany. Spain’s version of McD’s is insane. And that’s just the arches. Japan has a waiting line at KFC for Christmas because it’s become a tradition. I get why it would be cool to see how what we grew up with differs on the other side of the world.

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          Sonic should open some locations in the Netherlands. Imagine how many more people they could serve at once, if it was all bicycles pulled up into that shit.

          I guess they’d have to, like, clip trays onto your handlebars. That might be precarious, but I think it’s doable.

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          I went to a McDs in Rome and it was fookin trash. But I mean, its my fault for going to a chain in Rome…I ate at much nicer places otherwise.

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          The problem is eating at chain restaurants in the first place. But then again I’m not American. If you visit a foreign country and eat at chain restaurants from your home country you are the lowest of the low.

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          If the quality of convenience stores is such a central worry and or source of elation in your life, then you’re almost Japanese.

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          I personally recommend FamilyMart for the better quality and price of most things (especially fresh food).

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            Are the prices really appreciably different between the conbini chains? Everything seems about the same to me. Maybe it’s product specific, like 7-11 tends to have the cheap 7 brand coffee, but Fam Mart and Lawson don’t have their own.

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              For things like pre-packaged goods (potato chips, soft drinks) the price will be almost the same across all convenience stores.

              But for the fresh stuff (sandwiches, bento, fried foods, etc.) 7-11 is charging noticeably more than everyone else. And after 11 years, I prefer the quality of the stuff I find at FamilyMart. They have almost as many locations, so you don’t ever have to go out of your way to find one.

              The only advantage 7-11s have is their Oden service. However, over the past decade (and also thanks to COVID) the number of locations in Japan that still offer Oden are rapidly declining in number.