Sure, yes, making your own art would be better in one sense, one way of looking at this, but I guess you don’t appreciate the whole ‘turning it against itself’ aspect of this.
Turning a system against itself is the literal definition of subversion, in the context of complex systems, anyway.
Sure, its not as subversive as intentionally poisoning AIGen stuff to stupify itself over time, but I do think this counts.
Its not like you have to get the AI to draw the image every single time anyone sees it, we can still copy and paste images, host them where many can see them, etc.
To me, there is a sense of ‘art’ in the subversion itself.
If the theft machine already exists, and you don’t have the ability to destroy it, contain or restrain it more directly… using it to generate propoganda against itself, its creators?
I think that’s a clever use of it.
Like, would you say that that one piece of … kinetic/performance art, where its just a machine that you must go up to and hand crank, and it spits out penny by penny at the rate of minimum wage…
Would you say that isn’t art because it forces the art ‘experiencer’ to perform exhausting wage labor, which is simply 100% bad, all the time, no exceptions?
Turning it against itself my ass. This is promoting it. Legitimizing it. Normalizing its presence everywhere. Doing exactly what they want.
They’re on a niche forum sharing convoluted AI slop, harming that which they claim to stand for. These aren’t freedom fighters subverting the system, they’re clowns.
Using gen AI isn’t punk. Fuck that bullshit all the way.
Creating your own fucking art is punk. GenAI is slop, powered by theft.
Sure, yes, making your own art would be better in one sense, one way of looking at this, but I guess you don’t appreciate the whole ‘turning it against itself’ aspect of this.
Turning a system against itself is the literal definition of subversion, in the context of complex systems, anyway.
Sure, its not as subversive as intentionally poisoning AIGen stuff to stupify itself over time, but I do think this counts.
Its not like you have to get the AI to draw the image every single time anyone sees it, we can still copy and paste images, host them where many can see them, etc.
To me, there is a sense of ‘art’ in the subversion itself.
If the theft machine already exists, and you don’t have the ability to destroy it, contain or restrain it more directly… using it to generate propoganda against itself, its creators?
I think that’s a clever use of it.
Like, would you say that that one piece of … kinetic/performance art, where its just a machine that you must go up to and hand crank, and it spits out penny by penny at the rate of minimum wage…
Would you say that isn’t art because it forces the art ‘experiencer’ to perform exhausting wage labor, which is simply 100% bad, all the time, no exceptions?
Turning it against itself my ass. This is promoting it. Legitimizing it. Normalizing its presence everywhere. Doing exactly what they want.
They’re on a niche forum sharing convoluted AI slop, harming that which they claim to stand for. These aren’t freedom fighters subverting the system, they’re clowns.