• A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world
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    5 hours ago

    I’m sure this totally wont backfire and screw over legitimate owners due to some totally unforeseen glitch or idiocy on nintendos part.

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    4 hours ago

    This is pure speculation, the language in the t&c describes what happens now: the console and/or the account gets banned from online gaming

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    8 hours ago

    I’d love to see Nintendo try this in Norway! Completely and wholly illegal consumer practice. It’s incredibly hostile and would only work in countries where corporations have stronger rights than humans.

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      If it wasn’t for “piracy” (volunteers lovingly preserving and modding their games and consoles and sharing their work for free) most people would’ve left and forgotten about Nintendo years ago. Their products would have been remembered just like those old, abandoned songs you never hear on any streaming service anymore, then sometimes think about and never bother to find because “it’s so X0’s” anyway. Most of these companies owe modders and “pirates” the fact that they’re so happily earning so much in this golden era of remasters and remakes.

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    19 hours ago

    If Nintendo has the power to brick your console, then do you truly own it?

    This sort of shit needs to be illegal.

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      16 hours ago

      Because Japan’s copyright law is fascist as fuck. Fair use doesn’t even exist there.

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        4 hours ago

        Fair use is a defense in US copyright cases, it’s a precedent not an allowance or law

  • ☂️-@lemmy.ml
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    19 hours ago

    that will just make me wait until an emulator and roms come out.

    fuck nintendo.

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        14 hours ago

        i thought this had to do with the switch 2 but reading more into it, the first could very well be updated to do this too. thats shitty as fuck.

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          5 hours ago

          Good thing I still have the exploitable one with hekate installed.

          Nintendo will have to visit me personally and pry my switch from my cold, dead hands.

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    19 hours ago

    Is Nintendo mad at us? I know it’s a business, but it’s like they’re trying to top themselves with every announcement.

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      They’re trying to slow-boil you into having to play exclusively by their rules. In a couple years they’ll want to forbid you from having the console in your home, you’ll only be allowed to use it in official Nintendo-branded Play Rooms located at select locations. They’ll cost $20/hr to use, and you have to buy the console first.

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            There is really no benefit to relieving your ignorance

            If I leave you in the dark, I am badwrong for not doing free labor for you

            If I answer your question, I just get my inbox flooded with people looking to argue for no good reason.

            They lost a license on an old all in one game in the late 80s because they did not defend it rigorously enough in court. You won’t be able to find an article about it b/c all legal nintendo case searches get caught on the Palworld and Wii U controller court cases even if you change the date ranges.

            I don’t know what the name of the unit was, it was never released outside of Japan. IIRC it was a tank simulator game with the console built into a controller that looked like a little turret on a pivot and used the same tech as eventually went into the nintendo light gun

            The reason nintendo so aggressively pursues emulation is that they are scared of losing the rights to things like their bios files.

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              There is really no benefit to relieving your ignorance

              There is, because you’re not enlightening one person, but at least 28 by the looks of it. You could’ve been part of a teaching moment to the equivalent of a classroom full of people.

              I just get my inbox flooded with people looking to argue for no good reason.

              You get the same or worse by making shit up like blaming everyone for not investing time and energy into every event out there like it’s our job to find out what everyone’s doing in detail. The sheer quantity of events happening by the day is overwhelming. You can help save so much time by giving a quick rundown instead, or better yet, link to a credible source with an explanation.

              I am badwrong for not doing free labor for you

              It’s not free labor, but technically part of the burden of proof and part of the spirit of cooperation. You are responsible for the basic explanation or the citation of your sources so that you can be understood. Pushing this onto others is skimping out on due labor instead by being an uncivilized gremlin.

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              7 hours ago

              Explain why Sony, as another Japanese company that builds consoles, is not doing the same, please.

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              10 hours ago

              oh no a japanese video game giant is doing nasty, anti consumer things to maximise profits. Truly terrible and sad that nintendo is forced to be terrible by evil gamers or whatever.

            • haui@lemmy.giftedmc.com
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              14 hours ago

              And you dont find it weird that not all companies in japan go bankrupt because they have to literally claw back devices after sale to keep their patents? I know us autists can get stuck on ideas easily but do you see how their behavior is overzealous at best and this explanation being plain apologist bs at worst?

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                14 hours ago

                I fucking told you and you didn’t listen. How about you go do your own work instead of constantly demanding free labor from others?

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                  I mean, you do advertise that you’re perpetually angry but youre just rude and disrespectful. Your vague reproaches arent anything to work with, in case you really didnt know that. It like screaming "do your own research’ when certain groups are unhappy with science. Thats not how people function, it is ableist and unbecoming. Please do better.

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      Japan has very strict IP laws, nintendo lost out on licensing in the past because of this, so they pursue all infringement aggressively so they aren’t judge as not sufficiently defending their ownership.

      But it doesn’t really matter to you or the thousands of other people who post this because you don’t really want to be educated and just want to be rewarded for your clever words.

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        You’re answering the questions, but then you’re also throwing in these odd misanthropic asides. Is this a bit?

        I appreciate your insights into Japanese IP law and Nintendo biz lore in this thread.

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        Japanese IP laws are no more strict than other major blocs due to trade agreements. Nintendo has never “lost out on licensing” due to IP laws. Beginning in the 1980s, they have been extremely and aggressively litigious as a matter of company policy. They literally see everything they produce as theirs… you don’t own the things you “buy” from them. You pay them for the enjoyment of using their things. They’re about as hardcore neoliberal as it gets. In other words, they seem evil because they are evil.

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        At this point, I’m just calling this an excuse.

        I mean, fuck Japanese IP laws, but also fuck Nintendo for trying to gaslight us into pretending everything is normal and standard. Nintendo of America is not in fucking Japan. They play by American rules with American audiences, and Americans will bitch about their practices.

        You don’t sell a Chevy Nova in Mexico and call it a Nova. Adapt to the region you sell to.

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    3 months ago i was planning to buy 3 more games on my Switch and upgrade to Switch 2 when it comes out.

    After the shit with the Switch 2 launch and the anti-consumer attitude, i was ok I’m buying 2 more games on Switch and only PC after.

    Now i am thinking that they don’t gonna see another cent from me.

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      Im thinking of selling the switch 2 I pre-ordered directly from Nintendo… might get more than a grand

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        Who is paying a grand to buy a Nintendo console, Jesus Christ. Then again i see the prices of GPUs, and i remember how crazy this world really is.

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    Just another reason to stop buying consoles. Imagine building or buying a pc for your OS to just be like, “No, we think you’re pirating something. We’re going to lock your system and make it entirely unusable. Enjoy your ~$1000 paperweight!”

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      If you think either Apple or Microsoft wouldn’t do that,.you’ve likely too young to know about “hackingtosh” computers or too nerdy to have read the windows 11 coverage.

      That neither company would do it without a profit motive is a good argument to ban both from running “app stores”.

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        Hackintoshes have been around since the 80s and this has never happened.

        In 2009-2012 Apple did levy a successful lawsuit against Psystar for doing this in a business environment. But they’ve never enforced bricking a consumer Hackintosh and I expect they never will.

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          Apple has reportedly sued people trying to figure out the communication protocols and chips on hardware those people own.

          Aside from the specific hackintosh problem, apple is no better.

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          Contrary to what Lemmy would like you to believe, some of us actually like using Windows. Is it annoying sometimes? Yes but Linux can also be really annoying and a pain. I’ve wasted days trying to get a GPU to show up properly among other smaller issues for work purposes. I’m not gonna even try to bother with it when I just want to get home and relax.

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          Many of us don’t get a choice when it comes to work computers. I use a lot of software that is impossible to get on Windows or Linux. I despise Macs with a passion, but I’m forced to use them for certain aspects of my work. Because there literally isn’t an analogous program for Windows or Mac.

          Same with my desk computer, which is a Windows laptop issued by the company’s IT department. Could I boot Linux on it from a USB drive? Probably. But why would I, when that could easily get me fired as soon as IT sees a random Linux machine trying to connect to their network?

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              On the same basis as Nintendo, it wouldn’t matter if they are or are not, if their “detection” determines its against terms, then its against terms.

              False positives happen all the time.

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            Many of us don’t get a choice when it comes to work computers.

            Then just switch to Linux on your personal computer. Seriously, it’s as if you saw that single “gotcha” argument and decided to repeat it with no thought whatsoever

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              Not at all. There are a lot of Lemmy users who act like using Windows/Mac for anything is a sin. The go-to advice whenever Microsoft progresses the enshittificafion is “lol I haven’t used Windows in [X] years. Just make the switch to Linux already.” And they act like ditching it is the only way to go. But the sad reality is that ditching Windows/Mac isn’t an option for many people who are roped into using it due to corporate policy or entrenched software.

              Hell, I still have to use Windows XP fairly regularly for work. It’s an air gapped system that never touches the internet, but it is a program that is written in Flash… And it controls some of the most expensive gear that the company owns. Since Flash isn’t supported on modern OSes, the official vendor solution is to fucking ship a Windows XP machine.

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            I took down all the lan ports in our cube area connecting a raspberry pi to the network. I left network as static as I set it up and installed it into equipment where it won’t touch the network but the machine can talk to it, but then realized I needed some extra software. So I brought it out to my desk where I had set it up while it was set to dynamic and it caused the whole switch it was connected to to shut down. No one really seemed bothered when I went to get it fixed. Concerningly not bothered in fact.

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      No, we think you’re pirating something. We’re going to lock your system and make it entirely unusable.

      Microsoft would 100% do this with Windows if they had the technical competence, heh.

      Apple’s just closing off practical workarounds.