Edit: WE DON’T TALK ABOUT NUMBER 11.

  • Denjin@lemmings.world
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    18 hours ago

    I’m normally an anti-slippery slope person but there’s a definite escalatory nature to how paedophiles operate, it’s easy to see how images of fictional children can evolve into images of actual children.

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      16 hours ago

      How is this argument different than the “video games cause violence” argument?

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        16 hours ago

        The “video games cause violence” argument is wrong, because the vast majority of gamers don’t try to use games as a substitute action for violent behaviour.

        But there are of cause at least some mass murderers and school shooters, that have played violent games in order to fulfill their violent phantasies, couldn’t do so in a long term and murdered real people instead.

        Same goes with pedophiles. They want to fuck a child, use fictional characters to fulfill the phanstasy, get used to it and then escalate to pictures of real children and eventually real children.

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          37 minutes ago

          Do you have any real-world or professional experience with people suffering from pedophilia?

          I don’t, but I doubt that stance as being unfairly projecting some idea of how things have to work on those people.

          I for one can jerk off to the weirdest porn fantasy things, from the usual thinly-veiled step-siblings trope to rape play, weird power dynamics or tentacle porn (depictions of children not among them, I feel I have to mention that explicitly here), but I don’t have any desire to experience any of that in real life, because I absolutely know it would be wrong.

          I don’t see why that should neccessarily be different for them.

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        16 hours ago

        Because as I said, people with an interest in CSAM tend to escalate in their behaviour. Most don’t jump straight into child pornography but start with less serious things like jailbait and non-sexualised images of children etc. It doesn’t take a huge leap to see the same pathway with images of fictional children.

        I’m not suggesting that everyone into this material will go on to abuse children or start to consume actual CSAM but there’s a non-zero amount of actual paedophiles who started their journey with this exact material.

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          11 hours ago

          It’s that the same with violence, people that want to commit acts of violence may start by acting out violence in video games?