I realized that “Mensa” didn’t contain enough numerals to be a phone number, and knew it must be understood that any future member would be able to figure out the next two digits in the sequence. I tried dialling MENSANE, MENSAIL, MENSAFE, and MENSAAB, but got three rebuffs and a fax tone.

From “How I Joined MENSA” by Steve Martin

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    My parents told me it’s a hit list for when the fascists take over …but then they voted for the fascists.

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    MENSA is a big con. my mother humoured me when i was around 14 or so and i posted back the mini iq test from some paper or magazine or other. of course they replied wow you’re a genius, you better come and get tested in a strict testing environment for real qualified geniuses. they scored me well on their test of words, maths, and square patterns with dots where you have to pick if the next dots should be up or down or whatever. all multiple choice of course.

    did alright on the vocab stuff because i read a lot. put my best guess for everything else. big surprise then they gave me an OFFICIAL cert that said you are mega clever why don’t you pay to join up? being a naive child of course i wanted to. mum said something to the effect of do you think they are playing you? i thought she was shitting me and just didn’t want to pay the sub. obviously i’m a fuckin genius. but i knew she didn’t have the spare cash so said yeah nevermind fuck em

    dossed the rest of school thinking i didn’t need it, why bother when i am a certified genius? never occurred to me that spending all my sunday job money going half on twenty fags and an eighth of soap bar wasnt genius level decison making

    i’m doing alright these days but still fuck mensa

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      mum said something to the effect of do you think they are playing you?

      If MENSA tests you and says you’re a genius, you might be a genius.

      If you join MENSA then you aren’t as smart as they say you are.

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    Thinking one step further: Even if I somehow got into MENSA (unlikely), I can’t imagine ever saying, “I see you have a MENSA discount…” ugh.

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      If there’s any discounts they probably take the form of a link on a website that gets you 10% off (clicking the link installs a cookie that increases your prices on that website by 10%)

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    For anyone else wondering what a “MENSA” member is:

    Mensa International is the largest and oldest high-IQ society in the world.[3][4][5] It is a non-profit organization open to people who score at the 98th percentile or higher on a standardised, supervised IQ or other approved intelligence test.

    I was already questioning why school/university cafeteria staff should get any benefits that aren’t present in other jobs.

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      Blame the Romans.

      Both words are derived from late Latin mentalis, from Latin mens, ment- ‘mind’.

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    the mensa paradox.

    people smart enough to get in, are smart enough to know it’s got worth it

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        saying it with his voice is much better

        however,

        some things are better said in Groucho’s voice the rest are better said in Harpo’s voice.

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          It was actually a (too oblique) reference to his: I wouldn’t join a club that would have me as a member quotation. It was too oblique; my bad.

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      And yet it exists. Ego might seem like a pretty useless motivator, but it doesn’t seems to anticorrelate with intelligence. If anything, it correlates, probably because when you’re “the smart one” it becomes a vicious cycle pretty easily.

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        it exist, but it’s like really small.

        I’m theory, 2% of the world population is eligible (not that exclusive) yet they only have 50,000 members in the US, ie, 1.4 in every 10,000 people.

        so the vast majority of “smart” people think the idea is cringe

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          I mean, it is cringe. There’s strong norms about modesty when it comes to intelligence for a reason.

          So that comes out to 0.7% of eligible people. Honestly that’s pitiful if it comes with discounts like other people are suggesting. Those meetings must be really obnoxious.

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          Yeah, I’m reconsidering now that someone mentioned that. I’m not going to the meets, though, they get bad reviews for exactly this reason.

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      Also, “smart” and high IQ are different things.

      There’s no way to objectively measure how “smart” someone is, but if you think the bogus test and bogus score developed by eugenic pseudoscientists looking for an excuse to prevent the untermensch from breeding is the objective measure, you are in fact stupid.

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        i think IQ tests were originally developed to see which school students never to go to the next class, or stay behind, it was meant to see if a student tests as his peers or as his next/previous class peers. the inventor never intended it to be used as a way to measure an intrinsic immutable trait on adults.

        https://share.google/TOOJM3X81hSIP0PvP

        it was seriously bastardised by racist pseudoscience.

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    Mensa membership is directly correlated to taking online IQ tests.

    Truly intelligent people don’t.

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    Monthly emails about gathering with members, a useless plastic card and your ego filled to the brim. Don’t waste your time and money, weed is better.

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      I know someone who joined on a bet that he couldn’t get in, and he said the exact same thing.

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        It’s capitalism, it’s always that. How come YOU are looking for smart people, I pass your stupid test and I have to pay YOU ?!?! It’s like pretending a michelin star restaurant pays you for eating at their place just because you found them.

        Bitch I’m the genius, where my money at? 🤫 /s

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    It’s like buying a knighthood from an organization that claims to have rights to grant such things. Even though the title is meaningless.

    Mensa is the same.

    IOW it’s an organization designed to take your money for a title. They get money, you get a meaningless membership.

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      Hey my knighthood came with a certificate and everything! It’s easily given me $100 worth of joy, anything that’s not survival is bullshit. Lean into stupid if you can afford it and it makes you happy.

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      I see one key difference, in social value:

      Someone tells me they bought a meaningless knighthood: hearty laugh and a high five.

      Someone tells me they’re in MENSA: Awkward silence and maybe a mental note to check how they’re doing more often.

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    Its funny to qualify and not go after it. After exploration I found the same things. Whats the point? Only thing I could find was hey you can hang out with smart people.

    Its lonely being SMRT so this seems like it might be a good thing, but you know what… you put a bunch of smart people in a room and they are all used to being the smartest in a group and its insufferable.

    Better to not bring it up, and just find people that share your hobbies tbh.