I started to notice a intense automation and Artificial Intelligence Investments from companies and that made me wonder, what would happen or what should be done with the people who can’t be trained for a new job and can’t use his current skills to to get a job.
How would he live or what would he do in life? More importantly, what should be done with him to make him useful or at least neutral rather than being a negative on the society?
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Those who can work, should. Those who cannot should be taken care of by those who can. Comprehensive training programs and free education helps both, as well as subsized or free necessities.
Are there no prisons?
Are there no workhouses?
I read this in Alistair Sims voice.
The Bastille shall rise again!
What does “can’t be trained for a new job” mean? Why? What’s keeping them from learning a new thing?
Age and cognitive ability naturally.
That doesn’t mean much. If a person is too old to learn a new job, they should be able to retire. If a person’s cognitive ability is THAT low, so low they can’t learn the simplest of jobs, they should probably be in some care facility or (better) be cared for at home with their caretakers (who’ve had proper training) receiving adequate compensation. Why are we talking, in this context, about people who are unable to work anyway?
Don’t get me wrong, I’m very much against what we’ve come to call “AI” and how it’s taking over everything.
What if their wages hadn’t allowed them to build up a 401k? They likely won’t be able to survive on social security alone.
I don’t even really know what a 401k is, I’m not from the US. The fact that globally social security systems are failing due to neglect and tax gifts for the rich is a whole other issue.
In the US, pensions have become extremely rare, and were mostly replaced with a 401k, which is essentially a tax deferred stock market account. Often your employer will match contributions that you put into it up to a certain point.
Alright. Sounds like bullshit that you’re going to have to deal with, whether or not we’re facing the AI apocalypse, and I sympathise.
Fancy savings account for retirement that’s stored in stocks so it can explode at any point. Basic perquisite to ever retire in the US. Many people don’t have them.
I mean, it’s not really a new problem, although it’s just been ordinary health issues rather than AI.
Usually disability has been addressed very poorly, though.
Universal Basic Income.
You could do what I plan on doing which is getting married to a rich guy and becoming a house wife.
Either kill himself or get arrested for loitering and sent to prison to become a slave. At least that’s the plan in the states.
it’s cheaper to pay them to live a basic existence than to police them for comitting crimes.
That’s why you privatize prisons for profit and lobby to keep it that way.
at that point just turn them into soylent
We should build an army of them to kill all the porkies who think unemployable people are negatives on society
Re-employ them and fire anyone who says more AI should be added.
Eat the rich, ubi.
Rich people both wish for them to die and also at the same time buy all the products their stock portfolio need to show value.
What we should do is grind up just a few mega rich and create a healthy socal safety net to make sure everyone is safe and well fed.
UBI is probably a good idea but it’s coming too slowly for anyone to rely on. Even if UBI is fully implemented, I suspect it will be life sustaining but not a life fulfilling. So humanity still needs to find purpose.
It’s hard to imagine a scenario where someone cannot be trained to do something new. Isn’t that a core feature of humans?
Next, how shall we define value? I argue that humans can always create some kind of value that machines cannot, even if only because a human is involved.
We still value actual art over AI generated art. We value uniqueness and rarity. We value the faults that are inherent from things that are natural and organic.
Tons of the jobs people did a hundred years ago in developed countries are now gone or have been streamlined down to require fewer people. Yet there are more people on earth now than there ever have been before and arguably worldwide hunger is at its lowest point. So somehow we have figured out how to survive despite vast amounts of automation already. It seems unlikely that our new “AI” tools are going to somehow dramatically disrupt this balance.
Every single human, regardless of work, should have nutritious, culturally appropriate, tasty food; a dignified home suited to their needs; clothes in good condition etc.
culturally appropriate
tasty
Screams in northern Scandinavian
You will eat your fermented fish and you will like it!
(Just meant that ppl who eat halal or vegetarian or something can get that lol)
In all honesty, I love both rakfisk and lutefisk. They are fantastic and wildly underrated food. I will die on this hill.
Oh, and sursild, sennepssild, and all that other good sild stuff. That’s also awesome.
The swedes can keep the surströmning to themselves though. That shit is not fit for human consumption.
Unfortunately the trajectory we’re on in the US the answer will be something along the lines of “criminalizing homelessness” and then sending them off to for profit prisons that take public funding.
The usual: public subsided private “industry” for the wealthy, and “rugged individualism” for the people.
What we should do is recognize the impact AI has on society and tax accordingly as to allow a minimal quality of life for all people and if you want more than that then you try to find work that pays better if it’s even available. In the somewhat distant future AI combined with robotics will be able to do everything a person can do, but faster and 24/7. If no one gets a paycheck then no one can buy products so the corporations will either recognize that and willingly pay the previously mentioned tax or collapse.
