While every religion has its crazies (GTFO, orthodox & hassids), I found judaism to be far more critical and questioning than other religions that I’ve been exposed to. Literally the opposite of black & white thinking, a bunch of the religious texts are actually just arguments of different scholars (contemporaries of christ) offering opposing viewpoints and interpretations of older doctrines. (I’ve got an unfounded theory that this is why so many jewish people go into the study of law.)
That being said, I am not a religious person and despite being raised jewish, I now consider myself an atheist. Technically a satanist if we’re talking about giving my money to some kind of church.
Still, chanting at a magical fairy when you are 12 doesn’t make anyone a man. It’s an outdated tribal rite of passage at best, and a superstition with potential for horrendous implications in general.
Definitely a tribal rite of passage in need of updating to remain relevant. I do take umbrage with the chanting at a magical fairy. That’s far more a chrisitian thing. But what are the horrendous implications?
My guy it’s just a ritual to signify the progression of age and a child becoming old enough to take on more responsibility and exert more autonomy of their choices.
You’re way overthinking and projecting way too much on this.
Yes, religion sucks and is unnecessary, but this particular ritual is little more than an acknowledgement of growing older. It’s basically “Jewish sweet 16.”
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Does religion turn boys into men???
And turns men into wolves
Spooky scary
Welcome to fundamentalist black and white thinking.
While every religion has its crazies (GTFO, orthodox & hassids), I found judaism to be far more critical and questioning than other religions that I’ve been exposed to. Literally the opposite of black & white thinking, a bunch of the religious texts are actually just arguments of different scholars (contemporaries of christ) offering opposing viewpoints and interpretations of older doctrines. (I’ve got an unfounded theory that this is why so many jewish people go into the study of law.)
That being said, I am not a religious person and despite being raised jewish, I now consider myself an atheist. Technically a satanist if we’re talking about giving my money to some kind of church.
Still, chanting at a magical fairy when you are 12 doesn’t make anyone a man. It’s an outdated tribal rite of passage at best, and a superstition with potential for horrendous implications in general.
Definitely a tribal rite of passage in need of updating to remain relevant. I do take umbrage with the chanting at a magical fairy. That’s far more a chrisitian thing. But what are the horrendous implications?
Shit I meant my other comment as a reply to the commenter one up the chain, not to you. Sorry for my error
The content made it seem that way. No worries.
My guy it’s just a ritual to signify the progression of age and a child becoming old enough to take on more responsibility and exert more autonomy of their choices.
You’re way overthinking and projecting way too much on this.
Yes, religion sucks and is unnecessary, but this particular ritual is little more than an acknowledgement of growing older. It’s basically “Jewish sweet 16.”
Yeah like what the fuck are people on about in this day and age? Get your fairy tales outta here.
is the distinction between “boy” and “man” also a fairy tale?
In the context of religion playing any part in it? Yes.
what is the acceptable boundary?
The acceptable boundary for involvment of religion in child raising is zero.
Yes.
It’s a Bar Mitzvah, the “you are now a man” ritual in Judaism.
Which often involves having the sex, sometimes with a hooker.
Wtf is this comment? This is just blatantly false.
Chill with the unchecked antisemitism these days, Jesus fucking Christ guys