• brenstar@midwest.social
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    8 months ago

    Minus ad breaks, I missed this aspect of content consumption. Choosing to watch a random episode of a random show just doesn’t happen and I missed being able to just “see what’s on”. I spent a fair amount of time setting up random “channels” I can tune into that play random episodes from tv shows on my media server and it’s great.

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      A lot of newer shows cannot be watched randomly though because the episodes actually build upon each other.

      If you take older shows like TNG or X files: you could easily jump back in after missing half a season. The episodes were written to be mostly self-contained, because missing an episode or two because of life was very very common. Season finales were often a major exception, and were therefore also majority advertised so people knew to plan around them.

      If you write a show for streaming, however, there is no concept of “missing an episode”. So the writers are freed from that constraint, and subsequently write shows that are only meant to be watched in their entirety, in order.

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        Yeah, you can definitely see a trend towards more HBO style shows as streaming took off.

        I remember watching an episode of The Wire, and somebody else watched it with me and didn’t like it because they didn’t know what was going on and the story wasn’t resolved in an hour. I’m like 10 episodes in, and this ain’t Columbo.

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        Interesting to see it as being freed from a constraint rather than a crutch that viewers can be relied upon to watch all episodes. IMO writing satisfying one episode arc that also makes up part of a wider arc is much more difficult, and many shows now really have just a single arc that only gets good in the last third, making it essentially a 6-8 hour movie rather than an episodic show.

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      8 months ago

      They usually are though. Most content (excluding their own) is not available in all regions due to licensing issues.

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        Most content (excluding their own) is not available in all regions due to licensing issues.

        Actually, even including their own for some dumb reason. For instance, Paramount holds the rights to Star Trek, but there’s no way for me to stream some of the shows legally, because Paramount+ isn’t available where I live.

        Which to me makes no sense. It’s just a freaking website, globally accessible, hosting content they own…

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          Expanding to other countries can probably be a bit complicated and maybe they don’t feel like it’s worth it.

          Personally I barely care about copyright laws, and in cases like these I don’t give a single fuck. I won’t call the piracy justified like the deranged people in r/piracy (and especially it’s Lemmy equivalent) would. It’s not like I deserve to watch the content or anything, I just don’t care

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    8 months ago

    its so tiresome to have all these services constantly made worse. these days it feels whenever a new thing comes out, it has about two or three years before it’s run into the ground in pursuit of the almighty dollar.

    and this kind of thing is also happening to movies/tv shows/video game franchises. it feels like no matter how good it starts, you only get (at most) 2 or 3 sequels before the executives get their hands on it and run it into the ground. sure there are exceptions to this, but they are few and far between. and its becoming even more common for shows/video games to simply disappear if the parent company decides to remove them from online stores/streaming platforms.

    all around, it just feels like things are becoming less and less permanent

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      You’re describing capitalism. That’s literally what happens to everything when capitalism is unchecked.

      “Hey, we’re getting pretty good at producing food. Let’s put corn syrup in everything and make cheap food addictive.”

      “Hey, we just noticed that frightened people buy more guns. Let’s make sure criminals can always buy guns so that we are arming everyone!”

      “Land is the one thing they aren’t making more of. Let’s drive prices up while interest rates are low so that people have to spend all of their income on rent or die in the streets!”

      When profits are the only motivation, then products and services will only get so good before the investor class starts looking for ways to take advantage of leverage instead of innovation. Unregulated markets create opportunities for unbalanced relationships between producers and consumers, and it is always built on the lie that you can influence the markets by “voting with your dollars,” as though enshittification is what we want, what we deserve.

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    8 months ago

    You all should check out criterion channel. Definitely more art house style but a great value.

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      Yeah, been that way for a while. I assume either this tweet is old as fuck, or they’re adding more paid for ones. Or some regions don’t have it that way yet.

      The discoverability on D+ is awful as well. There’s loads of older stuff and all it wants to show me is shitty “reality” TV I couldn’t give a fuck about, and have never watched. I’m only on it now because the wife is halfway through Buffy and can’t remember where to find it again if I torrented it and I can’t be arsed with the aggro.

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      Not being funny, I actually do love linear programming. I miss the days when I’d just turn on the TV and there’s be a random episode of the Simpsons or King of the Hill, or something with stupidly many episode like one of the thousand Law & Orders.

      Picking something to watch from the beginning is a chore, and now I feel invested if I don’t end up being in the mood. Stuff that’s just “already playing” is something I dreamed of recreating when I started (not)pirating everything. "It started 5 minute ago but this is a good episode " was how I grew up watching TV (and even movies).

      • gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        8 months ago

        You can do this with Plex, which I find occasionally nice

        but the enshittification…

        I know, I know, I’m just relating to a comment. It’s also a feature on other sites

        Personally I’d like a “live” TV with 1-episode DVR. As in, I can tune in to a random whatever and if I find it actually interesting I can hop back to the start of the episode and enjoy without having to completely miss the before bits.

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        8 months ago

        Ideal would be a playlist you build and hit randomize. You pay for it. No commercials. I don’t think there’s a service that does this…

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        I think my favorite part is the fact that everybody (with the exception of telecasts) is seeing the same thing at the same time, so it was more of a social event like sports. It was so great back then.

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        I occasionally go to pirate sites that do this. You just go and tune in to a channel with a chat of other people who are just watching whatever plays.

        I enjoy watching cartoon network and discovery when I stay at a hotel, reminds me of my youth.

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    8 months ago

    man, piracy, i mean owning physical media, seems like a better and better method of enjoying media.

    It’s a good thing every show ever has been released on physical media. Right? Right?

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      If pirating it and saving to a thumb drive counts as physical media, then yeah, I guess.

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      they hyped up X-Men 97 for months and then didn’t bring it to my region. i don’t even know how there would be copyright issues since it’s an original. they just want me to stop paying and start sailing.

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          but it’s THEIR SHOW i don’t get what copyright problems they would have… i understand when they have licensed shows from other companies, syndication etc but why not release original shows everywhere? Netflix does it.

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    They’re really gonna make people start pirating out of spite lol

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            Sorry if I’m being nitpicky here, but falsetto is those breathy high-notes (think beejees, or Rivendell if you want to stick to rush). This song is all head voice. No worries though, I had to Google this just to make sure I wasn’t lying because I wasn’t certain.

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      we need to change them, not get rid of them. i think completely getting rid of IP laws would benefit big corpos like Disney. they would do to any small creator what Amazon does to small shops. they already try to do it as much as possible, but they’d be much more free to crush everyone else smaller than them.

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        how would they crush smaller frontends for content and smaller streaming services if they both have the same content and those smaller front ends are capable of giving me, as it stands, a much better ad free financially free faster lighter weight more customizable product experience?

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          are you saying if Disney and I have the same script in our hands and we’re both free to do whatever we want with it, that I have a better chance of making money off of it than they are?

          and yes, they would totally crush streaming services too. do you have any idea how expensive it is to make a video based service?

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            Well ideally you’d fund the development of the product and make profit off of it before launch if you really needed to, either through crowdfunding campaigns, or joining a monthly donation that puts out movies every however many years that are free for all. If a studio or artist puts out bad shit, or puts out something that already existed but just in a chopped up form, people would probably just stop paying that studio or that artist since their credibility would plummet. You could even just rig up a new advertisement scheme as a way to pay creators, which I assume companies would do since they’ve done shit like that with YouTube.

            I also don’t understand your hypothetical here. If Disney puts out a new marvel movie, why the fuck would you make another (presumably) marvel movie that has the exact same script? Likewise, why would Disney copy the script of a fan movie when they could just pay pennies to some put upon Hollywood writer for a script? It’s not like good scripts for movies are really in short supply, and most problems with movies are like that, they come down to shitty executive decisions. Disney’s probably not gonna “release” a chopped up version of your movie that they made for pennies. How would they even monetize that in a post IP world? Why wouldn’t people just watch yours instead, if they did that, since they’re probably accessible through the same avenues in a post IP world? How would Disney not lose all credibility as a company, as a content producer, as a creator of art?

            In any case, if Disney wanted to copy your short film pretty much beat for beat, they could just do that and get away with it pretty much whole hog right now. What are you gonna do, sue Disney? How would you prove that they copied you? Disney’s not stupid enough to just copy and paste the same script, much like you shouldn’t be, they’d change the words, change the aesthetic, etc, making it much harder to prove in a court. And there’s not really a way to solve that problem with more bureaucracy, unless you’re totally changing the economic structure, which I’d also be onboard with.

            This isn’t even getting into how IP works for pharmaceuticals or more important shit. A lot of people died from COVID in African countries because Bill Gates decided to poop his pants over IP law, plenty of people constantly cite the evergreening of insulin.

            I dunno, somehow Disney’s brand didn’t plummet after mickey mouse went public domain, and I’m sure they’re gonna continue making more mickey shit in the future.

            I also don’t know how much it costs to put up a streaming service, but I do know that straight up right now I can watch anime for free with no ads and a better end user experience than any of the mainline streaming services. I can also do that to a lesser degree with basically everything except pro wrestling and other live sports content, because nobody gives a shit about those apparently. Except for AAA and CMLL and lots of foreign promotions which are free on YouTube for some reason.

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    Honestly this is a nice feature for some kinds of shows. Sometimes I don’t want to watch a show from the beginning in order for certain kinds of shows. The only problem is this feature is coming as streaming services are fracturing and becoming less and less usable.

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      Right, give me Seinfeld shows on random. TNG. Fucking early seasons of Family Guy. Community to an extent. So many sitcoms that you can really watch a random episode and be good to go. Sometimes it’s midnight and you’re too drunk to go to bed and don’t want to think about what you’re going to watch.

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        Right, give me Seinfeld shows on random

        There used to be a website that was exactly that.

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      yeah a ten minute script for your local media playershould be able to manage this.

      edit: or ‘shuffle’ I’m a fucking idiot. I’m literally using that for music right now.

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      Yeah one thing streaming has never been able to replicate is a shuffle mode. Pirating, I can just load everything into a VLC playlist and mix it

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      ya it seems like a no brainer for streaming services. not sure why it’s being poked fun at. if you dont like the feature you dont have to use it