I’ve hears stories of some Americans telling other people who are speaking a non-English language “This is America, speak English!” even if the conversation has nothing to do with them. Why do they do this?
Xenophobia.
Very few people have that opinion.
I thought this first too. But then I remembered an interaction where one colleague of mine told another pair who were speaking another language that “secrets don’t make friends” or some such. I think it was intended as a jokey way to express that he was uncomfortable with the conversation that he couldn’t understand. He also joked that they were probably talking poorly of him. I noticed this person was normalizing controlling the discussion by throwing negative or secretive intentions onto the others’ discussions. In reality, they’re just friends discussing something in their primary language.
Anyway, long story long, I don’t think this colleague would tell us he has a problem with others speaking a language besides English, but then he’d probably follow that up with a bunch of clarifiers that indicate he does in fact have a problem with it.
I used to work with Croatians and Slovenians that spoke English fluently but switch to their language abruptly as I was standing there. I thought that rude of them
Yeah, pretty rude if they do that to exclude you specifically, for sure. Im sorry you had colleagues do this to you. Work is much better with good people.
RACISM!
Beats me, I live in Arizona and hearing other people speak Spanish is a daily occurrence. I don’t get even the slightest bit upset by it and I feel like you’d have to be insane to care about such a thing.
So maybe you have it here, some people are insane.
americans dont seem to understand there is an entire world outside of their country
This is amazingly true. That foreign metric system…
They also often brand something as “best in the world” when in reality it’s US only. And they are literally 4.2% the population of the entire world.
miss universe pageant?
the world series?
:)
American here, who has spent about a decade living in various countries around the world.
The biggest problem with my fellow Americans is that we’re raised in an isolated country, which only borders two other countries (Canada and Mexico). And our country is so massive, probably 90% of Americans don’t live anywhere near either country border.
Crossing borders is a big deal too; it’s not like Europe where you can be driving and suddenly see a sign welcoming you to a new country. There are checkpoints, blockades, passports, regular inspections, etc. Especially since 9/11 happened, our borders have become even more locked down. Plus, going anywhere else requires expensive plane tickets to fly over the oceans.
This leads to most Americans having no social interactions with foreigners most of the time. We’re fully ingrained in our own culture bubble and we don’t get a lot of interaction with other cultures, outside of stereotypes through pop culture.
Combine this with the fact that we’re taught from childhood that we’re the “greatest nation on Earth,” and you get an entire culture of entitled, narcissistic jerks who think the American way is the best way.
Our education has been failing for decades now, thanks to politicians on both sides of the aisle realizing that we’re more easily manipulated if we’re less educated. So there’s this race to the bottom, where we’re being fed lies and embellishments about how great America is and how we’re this amazing country that the rest of the world looks up to and admires.
With this entitled world view, it makes Americans scared when foreigners come to our country because we only know of their culture through stereotypes and we fear their culture taking over our “amazing and most perfect country.” Just as we’ve stepped into other countries and spread our own democracy, we’re afraid other nations will attempt to do the same to us.
It doesn’t help that we have an entire political party who maintains their voter base through fear mongering about foreigners taking our jobs, stealing our women, and destroying our “great culture” for their “backwards and corrupt” values. It’s complete lunacy, but to the average American who has no regular contact with the outside world, it seems plausible.
So yeah, a lot of Americans get uncomfortable when foreigners speak their native language around us instead of English. They tend to find it rude at best, and offensive/dangerous at worst. And some of the worst Americans travel abroad and expect everyone to essentially worship the ground they walk on, so they get offended when other people don’t know or speak English. It’s a really messed up world view, but it’s hard to change when we live such isolated lives.
It’s good old-fashioned xenophobia and is by no means unique to Americans or English-speakers even in the modern era. Anyone who has spent enough time in certain parts of France, Italy, or Belgium has probably encountered it at some point.
It’s everywhere but it is probably most prevalent in countries with a strong nationalist core and, in my opinion, ironically occurs most often in countries that have really fucked around with having an empire in the last century or so.
I remember smoking outside a pub near Chinatown with a mate something like ten years ago when two Chinese people went by speaking Chinese, and he said “they should be speaking English; this is Britain,” so I asked why, and he couldn’t explain why. Just on a vague principle.
We have this reputation here in Quebec to be generally angry at people for being really aggressive with people who are not speaking French when visiting. I’ve never experienced nor was witness of it, but I believe it when I hear people say they’ve had issues with some of us Quebs too. We have our fair share of idiots, like most nations.
I find the type of people that get angry at those that don’t speak English, usually have not a single interesting thing about them so they use English as an excuse to feel superior. It’s funny because the type to get angry at another language, rarely can speak English better than a 4th grade level.
Exactly! I have a friend who said a similar thing to his daughter, who came to him crying because her friends said she was not American enough because she wasn’t white. My friend said “you’re top of the class, excellent at sports, well spoken, well educated and very friendly and polite. They try to attack you for the sake of doing it, they try to find something bad about you, and they get nothing. So what do they resort to? Skin color!” (and yeah, I know this is about language, but it’s pretty much in line with your comment.)
I do not give 2 shits about people speaking foreign languages out in the ether for the most part. Having said that, there are 2 instances I can think of that grind my gears.
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You order an Uber, and the guy who’s driving is on the phone with someone, and is speaking another language with them the whole time. This is more just for the fact that this is shitty customer service for someone who works on tips to an extent. For whatever reason, this seems to only be an issue with foreign speaking people. My guess is maybe they’re talking to family back home? I certainly don’t tip those people who are doing it, but I don’t care enough to call them out on it either.
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As a poker player, they have rules about speaking English only at the table. This prevents collusion. I will absolutely call people out for English only at the table especially when there is a live hand going on.
For the first point really no matter what language they are using on the phone it’s bad service regardless. There already have been enough studies that says talking on a phone do still distract you from driving and makes it more dangerous.
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Some people are shit
This is not an American thing. People around the world are biased against immigrants.
It’s not JUST an American thing. People are biased against outsiders and people that are different.
Ftfy
No. That’s not a fix. You’re still focusing on this being American, while it is pretty universal.
goddamn bro, just let your racist flag fly proudly huh?
You need to realize there are americans, born here, with generations going back hundreds of years, that still speak other languages. And still get the snide ‘this is america’ bullshit.
The post may include immigrants but that’s not the entire population. what a chudworthy moment.
I think you maybe read something that the op didn’t write? Pointing out that “there are racists everywhere” is in itself not a racist statement.
This is not an American thing. People around the world are biased against immigrants.
this is their statement - assuming anyone they hear not speaking english are immigrants.
it’s incorrect.
Its not incorrect. People around to world are biased against immigrants, and someone who is stupid enough to get mad at someone speaking another language is also stupid enough to assume that they are not from the US even if they were born and raised there.
People around to world are biased against immigrants,
sick racist fucks like you perhaps.
Are you unable to consent to sex due to low IQ?
Well, since you’re going to go there - Your mom didn’t seem to think it was a problem.
Sure it’s incorrect, but saying someone is racist because of that is asinine. It’s not like they said that they are worse people just because they’re immigrants, it was just a shortcut for saying “people who speak languages other than English in day to day conversation”. Don’t get hung up on such details.
y’all are just too racist to realize. goddamn
It’s almost funny how hung up you are on that
Funny how you have zero shits to give. Privileged life huh?
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Sorry, as a Greek-American (currently in Greece), I disagree with most of the people here. When you’re part of a new country, you need to be able to do your business with the authorities in the official language. For that, some level of understanding the native language is required. In fact, to get any passport from any country, you need to have a B1-level understanding of that country’s language. So yes, being in a country, you need to know the basics. And if you don’t, then make sure you learn the basics within 6 months, in order to be able to live there without issues. I don’t see that as xenophobia, I see it as common sense.
I moved to Greece from the US this year with my French husband. He doesn’t speak Greek. I can tell you, it has been a nightmare for him doing paperwork, and I need to go with him EVERYWHERE in any government office in order to get setup. It wasn’t pretty in the first few months, he was full of anxiety and he wouldn’t leave the house without me.
Also, I worked in Germany in my youth, for a few months. I couldn’t understand most of what was said (although I could pick up a few words, but certainly couldn’t speak back). It was a nightmare. There were no free programs back then to learn the language, and so I went there without any preparation. Today, I wouldn’t have done it that way. I would first learn the language in some basic form (today there are apps to do that), and then move there.
USA does not have an official language.
No, and I do not agree with the above poster, but we’re aided in that most of our forms are in both English and Spanish, the two most common native tongues of people who live here.
Legally, yes. But you’re going to have a bad time if you don’t speak at least some English.
A friend of mine moved to LA from Germany to work for his German company. German was an option for the test at the DMV. He said the test was gibberish so he turned it in for an English test.
Do you expect a couple of foreigners visiting America together to speak English to each other while they are in the US?
We’re talking about people living there, not tourists.
Do you expect two people from the same country who moved to the US and live in the US to speak English to each other?
To each other, of course not. But to others, yes.
Homie, stop making shit up. Noone is giving grief to tourists for not speaking the native language of the country they are visiting.
Do you expect two people from the same country who moved to the US and live in the US to speak English to each other?
because racist people are stupid and ignorant
True.
Also, there is a psychological effect of people either feeling excluded from a conversation, or suspicious that they are being secretly insulted when they can’t understand it.
As a kid I worked fast food for a few years, and there was an “English only” on the line where customers could hear. One of our managers was Mexican, and actually enforced this pretty strongly. He once told us about when he went to a Subway and the staff was speaking what he suspected was Hindi, and explained to us all that yeah, it matters sense, you tend to get upset when you can’t understand people. They could be saying anything, making fun of you without your knowing, or whatever.
I tend to just ignore other languages (I’m in Chicagoland, there’s plenty of them) and an of the opinion that lack of exposure is one of the root causes of ethnic (and of other kinds of) intolerance. A lot of Americans live in their little rural bubbles where everything is samey and familiar, dealing with their little isolated lives, away from anyone noticably different than themselves. They’re tribalistic and comfortable there, and don’t like outsiders or change. They vote Republican because “people from the city” are bad, and they’re Democrats.
It’s not a new problem. The root philosophy in the fucking Bible is that “city people are immoral” because its all passed down by oral tradition, and its oldest stories are descended from periods when its creators were nomadic herders. Hospitality for them vs. urban hospitality are very different, and of course anecdotes get mutated through centuries of the telephone game.
TL;DR, lots of people need to meet more kinda of people and it’s been a problem since forever.
