Ask yourself what a cow ever did to you and compare the two
If people have good tattoos, the skin the tattoo is on should be preserved at death and framed. For family to enjoy.
Humans. They can consent.
We already kill cows to eat them. Wearing their skin is just using more of their material.
Yeah exactly. People dont realize that leather is a byproduct of the meat industry. Most of the cost is in tanning and preparing it.
So trust me, there is no shortage of skin to make leather
Except it’s rarely the same cows
Assuming it’s involuntary either way, cows.
There’s no shortage of alternatives, though.
From the pov of a human or a cow?
Cow leather is more moral in my pov
Or is it about sourcing it from them after their natural death?
Even then cow leather seems more moralWhat do you base that on? A cow can’t consent to this.
Seems a little fucked up.
But which is more fucked up?
I’d donate my body to a Tanner. Cows can’t make this choice in a we can understand at least.
Douglas Adams morally safe meat. Cows breed to be smart enough to agree to be food. To the point they will just pop off and off them selves … But don’t worry it will be in a very humane way… And don’t forget to try my rump it’s very juicy…
This is from the restaurant at the end of the universe btw
“How about a salad?”
“Oh, I know a few vegetables who’d object to that, Sir!”
It’s ethical i would say, since humans are an invasive species
Jokes like this make me uncomfortable :( there’s legit eco fash positions like this. Invasive species rhetoric is bad applied to all species imho, because killing children for some sort of inherited sin seems unreasonable to me.
I appreciate you calling out this kind of stuff. It seems like in this instance, OP was just joking, but I’m deeply nervous at how many people are genuinely believing and propagating eco-fascist rhetoric nowadays.
i forgot people actually think like this 💀
We do have to ask if Malthusians are really people…
Gotta do something with dead raiders.
Vegan leather. Not made out of vegans. Actually made out of polyurethane: oil: check, microplastics: check, disposable with a short usable life: check!
Well in all seriousness, humans can consent and cows can’t (or if they can, they have no unambiguous way to communicate this consent to humans), so human leather is more ethical.
And when it’s the only way to keep their family from starving, for example, people will consent in droves, securing supply.
because of the meat industry, i think its more ethical to use leather than let it go to waste. it lasts a long time and can replace a lot of other textiles that would need to be replaced more.
And the good thing is, when demand for (human) leather is higher than supply, people will just breed some more humans, keep them on farms, use their labor and sell their leather. With nothing going to waste, just the beautiful circle of life.
We’ve gotten quite efficient at doing that so there’s plenty opportunity to have more jobs, make a profit and to provide a product at an affordable price point, at the same time, all with human leather farms. Just have to compromise on welfare and sustainability step by step for more profit, but humans are already really great at ignoring such things when it’s advantageous to them, so most won’t ask any pesky questions anyways. We just have to normalize human leather (from factory farms) and everything will be great.
Yeah, just like we should eat more meat. Meat is just a waste product of the leather industry! Eating meat helps stop climate change because then we dont need to eat plants that are mono culture that use up space of trees.
People need to realize this more.
Its true, but on the flipside if you gave the meat industry less ways to recoup cost of “waste” then it may push meat prices higher and move people to plant based diets, thus removing need for amount of animals
Why let baby foreskins go to waste is what I always say.
Why human love infant genital mutilation so much?
It’s far from universally loved.
I’m not sure what the green is vs the red. I would assume African cultures don’t support it mostly because it seems unlikely that they developed the same arbitrary (religious) surgery. That would however imply that Europe is a lot more supportive of circumcision than I would have expected. Either way I’m surprised.
What do you think are the major religions in the continent of Africa? Traditional religions take up less than 10% of religious belief. Yes, less than 10% for all of them combined
Red is 90–100% circumcised. Green is 0–9%.
Wow, I’m surprised at how much it skews eastwards in the US.
Wait… Don’t tell me you don’t know about the baby foreskin facials???
Baby foreskin facials are so wasteful. Why smear them on your face once and discard them when you can make a leather thong from them for years of use?
Could you imagine a baby foreskin fanny pack? That way it could hurt everyone involved!
I mean that’s a screenshot from Rimworld so ethical leather harvesting is a small thing compared to prisoner organ harvesting (Source I play too much Rimworld)
