• Sentient Loom@sh.itjust.works
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    10 days ago

    Strictly speaking, DEI absolutely does NOT cover all “minority” hires. DEI is when we say, “We need more people of group X regardless of all other factors.” I really doubt they married their wives for the sake of diversity. So they’re nit DEI.

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        10 days ago

        Honestly it’s easy to get that definition of DEI when it is poorly explained and/or poorly understood.

        Plenty of people particularly on the right believe all the explanatory reasoning behind DEI is thinly-veiled “reverse racism”.

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          I understand that many people have an incorrect understanding of DEI (and at times have had experience with it being incorrectly applied). I was actually hoping to learn where this particular person learned their viewpoint to have a conversation.

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      10 days ago

      I wouldn’t say DEI generally means

      We need more people of group X regardless of all other factors

      That sounds more like quotas or affirmative action taken to the literal extreme, since those programs typically include other factors as well.

      DEI is more about respecting the value that diversity brings to a team and making sure you have an environment that allows for all sorts of people to be included and welcome.

      That said, totally agree that Melania Trump and Usha Vance aren’t “DEI wives.” It is certainly hypocritical that they embody immigration stories and Melania in particular may be illegal. But I don’t think anyone in the current regime is concerned one bit about consistency in ideology, it’s really just whatever they can get away with that leads to more power.

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      10 days ago

      regardless of all other factors

      Yea that’s not what DEI is. Look up affinity bias and why we need things like DEI.

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      Now it depends whether you mean actual DEI or the nonsense that companies do in the name of DEI or the unfortunate overreaction that some people support related to DEI due to the resistance to actual, reasonable, sensible DEI.

      “… regardless of all other factors…” sounds like the second of these.

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    10 days ago

    That’s the funny thing: they don’t.

    Hypocrisy is written all over their souls… If they have any, that is.

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    10 days ago

    You’re trying to apply conventional logic to this. Stop. They only want more power and money and they would say anything to get it.

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    10 days ago

    Idk who Drumpf is but DEI, as another commenter stated, has nothing to do with non-white people in general. Marrying a non-white person does not make them in favor of DEI.

    Many Chinese and Indian Americans are against DEI because they work so hard to raise their children to get into the top schools from birth then view their chances hurt by DEI. I’m less knowledgeable about Indian Americans but I can confidently say many Chinese Americans are more educated and even right wing than white Americans. You want to hear some insane politics go talk to an Irvine Chinese American.

    TLDR: DEI/=Minority Minority/=liberal

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    One of the few areas where representation is fair is assholery. There are real assholes from all genders, ethnicity and religious backgrounds.

    You can be non-white, non-binary, non-wasp and still be an asshole. And other assholes will accept you, if it helps shield their evil agenda from the most obvious accusations.

    And guess what political side has learned to leverage that fact? I’ll give you a few hints. Neonazi AfD in Germany has a lesbian leader with a Sri Lankan partner, the italian far right party (staunch defender of family values) has a leader who’s a never married single mom (and now she’s Italy’s prime minister), then you already mentioned Trump and Vance.

    Don’t get me wrong, Usha Vance, Melania Trump, Giorgia Meloni, Alice Weidel aren’t being exploited. They are all formidable persons who got to the top by out-assholing everyone else on their side and by actively banking on their “non traditional” status to emerge in ultra-conservative environments.

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    9 days ago

    Their goal is power, and they will use the most efficient and effective means at their disposal to secure it. Their actions are not guided by higher values or logic.