We’re inundated with propaganda. Our media is state run. All for-profit media is state run.
Our media is state run. All for-profit media is state run
Could you elaborate on that take?
Reporting on things outside of the leading party’s agenda are not allowed in broadcast and print media. The leading party in the United States is the ownership class.
Those of us who aren’t Team Orange or completely oblivious know, I think. An appalling number of people are completely disconnected from what’s happening, and a disgusting number either don’t care or love it.
I lost the last shred of faith I had in the American people with this election. I delight in the suffering of every shithead that either voted Trump, 3rd party, or not at all. ESPECIALLY the protest voters, conservative minorities, and rural idiots stupid enough to think Trump cared about them or was somehow a better because they didn’t like something the Biden administration did. My schadenfreude levels are hitting new, bitter peaks there.
The Biden administration aided and abbetted genocide. The American monoparty would be proceeding exactly as planned under genocide Harris as it is doing now, just slightly more slowly.
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Now you’re getting it!
Ah, I was mocking you. Kind of makes it less fun when I have to explain it, but considering my audience it’s to be expected.
If you write the truth in spongebob case it doesn’t make it any less true
The phrase “rogue state” to me always just sorta meant “uncooperative with the United States,” which the United States can’t be. I’m sure there’s a more useful definition.
Honestly? I think the US can be uncooperative with itself. At this point, nothing would really surprise me.
Some of us are aware. We tend to also be the ones who know this only ends in some kind of revolution. No dictator has even chosen to give up power.
No dictator has even chosen to give up power.
Taiwan’s did: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Taiwan_(1945–present)
It was actually neat. The “hybrid” between dictatorial state funding and a democratic business environment all but established TSMC.
Ukraine is sort of a dictatorship now, but Zelensky will probably give up power.
But, uh, we don’t talk about them here I guess.
How is Ukraine a dictatorship?
They paused elections, and Zelensky has some extraordinary wartime authority. He could try to consolidate power after the war, but he certainly won’t.
They aren’t really a dictatorship, of course, I’m just trying to illustrate that dictators can and have chosen to give up power… And it’s unfortunate that more don’t.
The West Coast is well aware. I really can’t see anyone in the US not being aware of our country’s wannabe fascist status, even though some will plead ignorance. I’m kind of hoping maybe Oregon, Washington and California will get together and ask Canada if we can join them… with a probationary period of course. No one in their right mind can trust us outright at this point.
Yea plenty of people in the south are aware too, things aren’t “hidden” this isn’t north korea or turkmenistan… yet. As someone else said we’ve known this is what they want to do for a few years now.
Maybe if us west coasters make life a living hell for Shitler, he’ll sell us to Canada. Just tell him it’s a good business deal. He’s so dumb he might just do it.
Please, Canada! WA and OR would make a lovely drive on your way to CA! We know they’re the big prize but take us too! 😭
Shitler would never let CA go.
CA is the forth largest economy in the world. It would humiliate him to let CA leave the union.
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While CO put Lauren Boebert on the world stage, we are generally down to ignore federal authority. Rember when marijuana was illegal? Unfortunately that would require getting Montana, Idaho and/or Nevada on board. Seems unlikely.
Those three states would more than double the population of Canada and overwhelm their political system. I wouldn’t do that if I were them.
There are some workable solutions inside the nation as well, as the federal system is dismantled. If WA, OR, CA, HI, the tribal counsels, and maybe AZ and NM (if they can play nice) got together, we could do a number of things to shore up the left part of the US.
First, states are not subject to patent. Each could choose a critical, expensive medication and produce it, sharing supply around the compact. Tribes could easily make epi-pens for their share.
Second, tie this into a compact equivalent of a multi-state healthcare that creates a floor healthcare for all citizens. Hawaii could lead this effort, they essentially already have it in their state. Get to the point you can cover people with income up to $70,000/yr california equivalent (based on living expenses) and let healthcare companies create supplemental plans like for medicare.
Third, as trump wrecks FEMA, form compacts for emergency response with mexico and canada and among these states. This is not currently legal but if FEMA is gone, why not just do it and who cares.
Fourth, create cooperative food sharing among states for excess crops. Federal programs just got destroyed, and california has a lot of excess supply. Let the compact members have a market where they can, as states, buy excess for their food programs. Let the program deal as an entity with non-compact states, which isn’t controlling interstate commerce, feds, it’s just the free market at work using the power of liberty to make red states either meet the price or we look outside the US.
A lot of this just recreates existing structures that are being destroyed, but leaves the red states that destroyed them to fend for themselves.
No thanks, our Conservatives are further to the left than your democrats, and California has the population of the rest of Canada combined. You can make your own country
I agree about the Democrat party, but I wonder if the regular people of those states aren’t closer to Canadians in their views. If they were to join I imagine the existing party wouldn’t carry over and new ones would need to be organized.
For most of the democratic world, the US Democrats are right wing, like Canada, Australian mainstream. conservatives are to then left of the Democrats…eg it was Australians mainstream right wing party that brought in compararively draconian gun laws (by US standards)
Roughly half of the population has absolutely no clue what’s going on. Kids, old people, non-news-readers/viewers, etc.
A third of the population is vaguely aware that some shit is going down based on vibes but can’t identify the problem.
Half the remaining sixth can identify the problem as political but misattribute the cause. Leaving just a 12th of the population actually aware of our situation.
SO BURST THEIR BUBBLE?
They are unreachable. This is the most heavily propagandized country on the planet and most don’t have the education to understand our political situation. Try and explain why corporate campaign financing is a bad idea and half of us start whinging about freedom of speech.
Yes we know, and the general vibe even with magas don’t like it.
The USA was a rogue terrorist state already for decades in it’s meaning for foreign policy and illegal wars. They did a worse thing than Russia did with Ukraine when they invaded Iraq and Afghanistan with flimsy excuses, except it was not a country on their doorstep but on the other side of the world.
Nobody is “aware” of this. People continue talking about US doing this or helping that as if they were not a rogue state.
So far Trump hasn’t done anything irreversible “rogue state” in regards to international relations. He constantly sprays shit everywhere to get people to loose their minds. Yeah he’s threatening to invade any nation where they could plunder, but he’s only saying the quite part out loud. The US has been doing that for decades.
I also don’t believe (hope) that Trump actually will start a war. It’s not his stage. It’s a long complicated affair where he isn’t in the spotlight and doesn’t get to shine and control the narrative with chaos and then hop onto the next thing the next week. He might bomb this or that as long as it’s quick to do, but he only wants to appear as the big man. Obviously this is just speculation.
If you mean “failed state” or no longer a democracy, I don’t think people think that already. They assume they can vote again for another obama / biden type in 4 years.
They somehow sanewashed dropping 2 nukes on civillians.
not even sanewashed, the justification was racists bs that japanese people were feral creatures willing to fight to the last japanese thus needed to get nuked.
yeah but the active constant surveillance keeps us from talking with each other about it in public/privately owned buildings/urban areas/in cars/anywhere a phone is present
basically we have to go on camping trips if we want to actually discuss
Aware and trying to let others in my circle that are unaware become aware.
To some 20%-30% of the country ‘patriot’ means ‘whites only’. Honestly, if your so dedicated to being a patriotic American you can’t stand up to a government doing everything it can to destroy America, your just an idiot.
Leftists, of course. Liberals will continue to be in denial for the foreseeable future. Conservatives just dgaf.
Not all liberals. But yeah most. Or maybe I’m more leftist than I thought I was…
Liberals will claim that they are furious at what’s going on and then proceed to vote for another capitalist who perpetuates what’s going on, all while refusing to listen to Socialists. 🤷♀️
Sad but True.
Thanks for the question lemmy.ml
Is your solution still to try and discourage people from voting? Or have we fully transitioned into, continue to blame Biden even though he hasn’t been President since you all helped get Trump elected?
Chuck “My job is to keep the left pro Israel” Schumer can save us.
So Republicans still get a pass from .ml then. Good to know. You’re all just agents
Ah yes, the usual patriotism…
There was never a point in US history that it was not a rogue state. If you believe there’s a period it wasn’t, you simply do not know enough history about the time period you’re referring to.
Or more likely, you believe white lives to be more valuable, and you take offense now that the US is directing their usual behavior towards white Europeans.
That’s why I wrote “…now definitely a rouge state”. Not that there was much of a question before but now it should be obvious even to US-citizens.
[…] now that the US is directing their usual behavior towards white Europeans.
That’s nothing new, that’s happened before.
Then explain the shock coming from Europe.
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No, it hasn’t. The US is waging a proxy war that requires the EU to bear the consequences. They even destroyed one of your pipelines, and caused one of the worst environmental disasters in history right off the coast, and Europe didn’t make a peep about it.
Yup.
What we are seeing now is a critical inflection point for liberals: do they do honest introspection and start to apply real criticism to the history of the US, or do they cover their ears and claim Trumpism is an aberration for which they have no reasonable explanation.
To put it simply, liberals now have a choice between
“Damn, this is really the outcome of the american political project, huh? How did we get here?”
And
“Trumpist fascism is un-American, and I am clueless as to how it took hold, but I am going to continue to vote blue no matter who!”
If the amount of liberals on .world bizarrely harkening back to the “good old days” of the founders, Reagan, Obama, and even dubya is any indication, I suspect most of them have gone with the second option.
Liberals are just as much reactionaries as conservatives. They simply disagree on which status quo they’d like to return to and who is acceptable to exploit.
the other guy pretty clearly meant liberal in a social & political philosophy sense and not a “liberal v conservative” modern american political theater one. i won’t speak for ferrous but i would imagine that’s why you didn’t get a reply of sorts yet. it’s kind of surprising and unsettling the amount of upvotes your comments have relative to each other but then again it seems reading comprehension is a skill more and more left to a select few.
like, anyone from .ml probably means liberal in that sense but in the particular context of this comment he definitely did and i’m confused why you’re getting upvoted when your reply is nonsensical considering liberalism is not diametric to conservative ideology within most frameworks.
sorry not to be a chode but wishy washy symbols like the ambiguity of the word “liberal” in modern discourse is a large part of what has landed us here in the first place.
I’ve been saying this is inevitable since at least 2004. I’ve been called every name you can pretty much call someone.
I hate being right it fucking sucks.
My friend . When you come to realizations like that or thoughts such as “we are all one, connected and God is love” you have got to keep it under your hat or people will think you’ve gone mad
You wanna get Fabian away from me
I’m so sick of caring about what the mad think.
