We’re inundated with propaganda. Our media is state run. All for-profit media is state run.
A superpower by definition cannot really be a rogue state. A “rogue state” is a political label applied by dominant powers to states that defy the international order. For example Iran or North Korea are considered rogue states because they defy the international order. What is “the international order”?
Well, it’s the combination post-WW2 institutions created by none other than the US. The UN, IMF, NATO, etc. They set the norms of “legitimate” behavior. When the US participates in military interventions, economic sanctions, and other aggressive actions it’s framed as upholding “rules-based order” whereas identical actions by weaker states get them condemned with the label as “rogue states”.
To call the US a rogue state is to misunderstand power. Hegemony is the ability to define reality, not just defy it. In this way, the US has always been a rogue state in the sense that it does whatever it wants regardless of the international norms. I mean, just look at the mid 1900s and its actions in Latin America. It was involved in about a dozen states toppling governments and supporting military dictatorships- including sponsoring the genocide of natives in Guatemala.
Yes, that’s true. I’m more concerned with whether US citizens, whose past administrations more or less invented the term, can now recognize for themselves that they are no longer on the side of the “good guys” with this administration at all, but are now the “terrorists” themselves - the very thing that past US administrations denounced (at the time, of course, already completely speciously).
Edit: Trump himself has even brought the term back to a certain extent - and he is not only the personification of evil for the governments of other countries. I just want to make it clear that it’s the same here as with almost everything he does: it’s projection - whatever he accuses others of, he and his corrupt gang are the ones doing it.
My point is that there are no “good guys” and “bad guys”. There are only differing levels of power. The US has been doing a lot worse for a lot longer. It’s just that past administrations were diplomatic about their use of power. This administration, being a reality TV star, is just choosing to be loud about it.
America under Biden supplied 80% of the bombs that Israel dropped on Gazan civilians. Obama led the illegal attack on Libya and killed Gaddafi and doomed Libya to anarchy and chaos. Bush destroyed Iraq and doomed them to anarchy and chaos- creating ISIS. I could go on and on.
Most American citizens (just like the citizens of virtually every country in the world) are not really concerned with geopolitics. They have to pay their rent, they’re gonna be late for work, their kid is failing a class, their girlfriend is pissed because they don’t go out enough, they’re tired from work, they’re working hard for that promotion, they’re worried about rent increases, etc.
So to answer your question. No, Americans don’t really care. And even if they care, they’re forced to worry about more pressing individual matters. Basically the same thing that happened in your home country in the 1930s.
Myself and and a good number of people I know are very aware and horrified. Unfortunately this isn’t necessarily the case outside of my social bubble. Since major media outlets aren’t doing a great job, a lot of people are trying to spread the real news in a grassroots style.
It’s covered up yeah, most of the republicans are too dumb to realize it.
I own guns now. I never did or even considered it until the election results in November.
Leftists, of course. Liberals will continue to be in denial for the foreseeable future. Conservatives just dgaf.
Not all liberals. But yeah most. Or maybe I’m more leftist than I thought I was…
Liberals will claim that they are furious at what’s going on and then proceed to vote for another capitalist who perpetuates what’s going on, all while refusing to listen to Socialists. 🤷♀️
Sad but True.
To some 20%-30% of the country ‘patriot’ means ‘whites only’. Honestly, if your so dedicated to being a patriotic American you can’t stand up to a government doing everything it can to destroy America, your just an idiot.
Aware and trying to let others in my circle that are unaware become aware.
Some of us are aware. We tend to also be the ones who know this only ends in some kind of revolution. No dictator has even chosen to give up power.
No dictator has even chosen to give up power.
Taiwan’s did: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Taiwan_(1945–present)
It was actually neat. The “hybrid” between dictatorial state funding and a democratic business environment all but established TSMC.
Ukraine is sort of a dictatorship now, but Zelensky will probably give up power.
But, uh, we don’t talk about them here I guess.
How is Ukraine a dictatorship?
They paused elections, and Zelensky has some extraordinary wartime authority. He could try to consolidate power after the war, but he certainly won’t.
They aren’t really a dictatorship, of course, I’m just trying to illustrate that dictators can and have chosen to give up power… And it’s unfortunate that more don’t.
The phrase “rogue state” to me always just sorta meant “uncooperative with the United States,” which the United States can’t be. I’m sure there’s a more useful definition.
Honestly? I think the US can be uncooperative with itself. At this point, nothing would really surprise me.
We been a rogue state for 100 years
Many Americans are unaware of the problems due to media censorship.
However they’re creating so many problems that even those with blinders on are seeing this shit.
Depends. Everyone who voted against Trump knows this and it’s probably why they did but most non voters and maga are still ignorant.
The irony is that had the previous administration followed what Obama and Clinton and every other previous administration did on the border topic, they would have won in a landslide. But now the corruption of the last few years is being revealed and it’ll be interesting to see the fallout over the next few years.
The Biden admin and Dems literally tried giving the majority of the people what they wanted and the Reps stopped them to make Biden and the Dems look bad.
The last administration proposed sanctioning the ICC
We have first past the past voting here, this means we don’t vote based on who we like but rather who is the lesser of two evils.
It makes it easy for good and smart people here to support things like this, even if they don’t want to, because the alternative is worse.
No “average” person is aware because they are too busy trying to just survive. Nobody wants to chance losing what they’ve worked so hard for. The only people who watch the news are seniors and disabled people, and they’re being misled if they just watch TV news.
People who call themselves Republicans are happy with what’s going on. People who call themselves Democrat are not happy but think they need to work within the system to solve the issues and wait until the next election. Libertarians have sided with the Republicans. Socialism is still a taboo way of thinking for the most part here.
Then you have disabled people (like me) who are watching what is happening in horror and have sky high anxiety wondering if they’re next to be disappeared or homeless. I can stand for maybe 30 minutes at most, holding a sign maybe 15 minutes at most. So I’m doing what I can and that is trying to live as if things are “normal” to continue on my mental health recovery and sobriety journey at the same time being horrified and terrified of what’s to come. It’s a weird duality that I don’t like. I told my therapist the other day that I have hope for the future for my recovery but I have lost all hope in what is going on politically and in the news.
A lot of this I also blame on false American beliefs fed to us in school that we were safe from all of this nonsense because of our constitution. The American Dream and all that B.S. They sugar-coat our history as a country in schools – at least they did when I went to school in the 80’s/90’s, I don’t know about now. It’s as if America only has a rosy history, even the Civil War is glorified in false narratives.
It’s easy to see how we got to this point as a country. The question is, how do we get ourselves out of it?
Whatever the answer is, it’s going to take years if not decades. I wish I had the answers. I wish I had the power to make things right. I wish I could stop the suffering. All I can do is do what I can. For now, that’s surviving. For now, all I can do is continue to be kind to people and educate them when I can. Help them when I have the ability to.
My fellow disabled person, I see you. A murmur can become a tidal wave with time. We must stick together. We cannot lose hope. We must go on.
We’re successfully distracted by the more immediate personal problems they’ve created for us
Have of erica are horrified by it, and the other half think ita so.ething to be proud of, because theyre ignorant neanderthals.
Try again when sober.
Nono I think they’re on to something
Op was at least right about Erica.
