And if they had just brought the kid’s mother, or gone back for her and the other slaves, he never would have had to go rescue her and kill all those sand people, leading to his fall.
Since the Jedi had fucked up “codes” to live by, I never would have expected them to rescue the mom.
Queen Amidala, however…
How fucked up is it that she was taken in by Anakin’s mother, who (as a god damn slave) fed her, gave her a place to stay, allowed her son to risk his life in a pod race, and ultimately gave her only son up willingly to go with her and the two Jedi, not really knowing what would happen but just trusting he’d be safe—but then, that same kid who gets attacked on the way to the ship just leaving Tattooine, ends up flying a fighter craft and destroying the droid control ship which saves Amidala’s entire planet and people. The fact the kid survived any of that is a miracle, but he clearly misses his mother. A fact Amidala was blatantly aware of.
The fact that Amidala, who had nearly infinite resources at her disposal, owed her life and every life she was responsible for in Naboo to Anakin, and was clearly aware of pretty much the only thing Anakin wanted in the entire universe—his god damn mother—and yet Amidala didn’t do jack fucking shit to drop a few coins on Watto and free Shmi.
I never would have expected the Jedi to free her, but Amidala? What a fucking piece of work…
There are just so many wtf did George do this questions where the only answer is “so the movie can happen.” It’s lazy writing which most people overlook bc the movies are fun spectacles.
Overall the movies are made to sell billions of dollars worth of toys and lunch boxes to a new generation, so they’re not particularly worried about writing high quality plot lines.
He would still have been attached to her and in the film’s logic, that was the problem. You can bet that there would have been a point where he would have been afraid for her leading to yadda yadda.
I always found that strange… The jedi were supposed to be the “good guys,” yet their entire thing was “you are not allowed to love or care about anyone or anything ever again.”
It’s supposed to be the same concept that Buddhist monks follow, or any monks for that matter. Desire leads to temptation, and temptation leads to corruption, so they swear off all worldly comforts and attachments.
Right, but I don’t see that as being inherently “good,” or “evil.” Whereas the Jedi are very explicitly the “good guys” in a universe that does not leave much room for grey.
The views of the Jedi were written from one interpretation of Buddhism’s views on attachment, in that attachments inevitably lead to suffering. Though that’s probably more a mistranslation and I think it’s more “dependence” instead of attachment: it’s ok to have relationships and to love and care about other people, it’s just when your happiness or well-being is dependent on others or on some thing that suffering is the result. Though that’s just one view, and there are of course many, many interpretations.
The idea also exist in Catholicism that you can’t fully devote yourself to the way if you have too much attachment, hence monks and nuns isolating themselves and priests not allowed to marry.
Ya should check out The Unifying Force Theory, basically says the Force has no inherent light or dark side, that it’s indifferent. The Force, through individual’s actions dictate whether they are light or dark, and within ourselves is the capacity for both. It’s kinda what the Sequel Trilogy was trying to go for with Kylo and Rey, albeit executed very poorly.
Funny enough, probably the most famous practitioner of this belief was Qui-Gon Jinn. It’s also why he never was elevated over the rank of Knight. He was considered unorthodox and a bit of a rebel by most Jedi then, who followed the more commonly held belief of The Living Force Theory.
And if they had just brought the kid’s mother, or gone back for her and the other slaves, he never would have had to go rescue her and kill all those sand people, leading to his fall.
Since the Jedi had fucked up “codes” to live by, I never would have expected them to rescue the mom.
Queen Amidala, however…
How fucked up is it that she was taken in by Anakin’s mother, who (as a god damn slave) fed her, gave her a place to stay, allowed her son to risk his life in a pod race, and ultimately gave her only son up willingly to go with her and the two Jedi, not really knowing what would happen but just trusting he’d be safe—but then, that same kid who gets attacked on the way to the ship just leaving Tattooine, ends up flying a fighter craft and destroying the droid control ship which saves Amidala’s entire planet and people. The fact the kid survived any of that is a miracle, but he clearly misses his mother. A fact Amidala was blatantly aware of.
The fact that Amidala, who had nearly infinite resources at her disposal, owed her life and every life she was responsible for in Naboo to Anakin, and was clearly aware of pretty much the only thing Anakin wanted in the entire universe—his god damn mother—and yet Amidala didn’t do jack fucking shit to drop a few coins on Watto and free Shmi.
I never would have expected the Jedi to free her, but Amidala? What a fucking piece of work…
First time you’ve come across an SW plot hole?
There are just so many wtf did George do this questions where the only answer is “so the movie can happen.” It’s lazy writing which most people overlook bc the movies are fun spectacles.
Overall the movies are made to sell billions of dollars worth of toys and lunch boxes to a new generation, so they’re not particularly worried about writing high quality plot lines.
Yeah, but mother-in-law.
Ah, that had me laughing:D
“oh god I hope that little slave boy blows me out”
He would still have been attached to her and in the film’s logic, that was the problem. You can bet that there would have been a point where he would have been afraid for her leading to yadda yadda.
I always found that strange… The jedi were supposed to be the “good guys,” yet their entire thing was “you are not allowed to love or care about anyone or anything ever again.”
Seems kind of fucked up.
It’s supposed to be the same concept that Buddhist monks follow, or any monks for that matter. Desire leads to temptation, and temptation leads to corruption, so they swear off all worldly comforts and attachments.
Right, but I don’t see that as being inherently “good,” or “evil.” Whereas the Jedi are very explicitly the “good guys” in a universe that does not leave much room for grey.
Lying, deception, and selfishness are tools of the Sith, which are universally considered evil.
I think it’s to prevent you from being coerced to do something you shouldn’t by threats to loved ones. If you are unattached you can’t be blackmailed.
The views of the Jedi were written from one interpretation of Buddhism’s views on attachment, in that attachments inevitably lead to suffering. Though that’s probably more a mistranslation and I think it’s more “dependence” instead of attachment: it’s ok to have relationships and to love and care about other people, it’s just when your happiness or well-being is dependent on others or on some thing that suffering is the result. Though that’s just one view, and there are of course many, many interpretations.
The idea also exist in Catholicism that you can’t fully devote yourself to the way if you have too much attachment, hence monks and nuns isolating themselves and priests not allowed to marry.
That’s why Revan rejected both, declared they were both extremists, started The Grey Jedi, and became enemy #1 of both The Jedi and The Sith.
Ya should check out The Unifying Force Theory, basically says the Force has no inherent light or dark side, that it’s indifferent. The Force, through individual’s actions dictate whether they are light or dark, and within ourselves is the capacity for both. It’s kinda what the Sequel Trilogy was trying to go for with Kylo and Rey, albeit executed very poorly.
Funny enough, probably the most famous practitioner of this belief was Qui-Gon Jinn. It’s also why he never was elevated over the rank of Knight. He was considered unorthodox and a bit of a rebel by most Jedi then, who followed the more commonly held belief of The Living Force Theory.
I had heard the dark side was a twisted corruption of the force and sort of like a cancer