• kreskin@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    if it gets low enough that you dont understand how bad off you are, its apparently not that bad.

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    It’s hard. I always knew I was different but I didn’t know why until I was 14 when I took an IQ test and found out I had an IQ of 73. At first I was in denial but overtime I came to terms with my learning disabilities and started to understand what was wrong with me. It’s affects you in a lot of ways. You learn slower than everyone else. Things that come easy for everyone else take you forever to get a grasp of and I get overwhelmed with information very easily.

    It’s held me down my whole life. It gives me a massive a inferiority complex and it limits my opportunities. I really wish I had a normal IQ like everyone else.

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    In my experience, people are generally unaware of current events and history. They don’t understand basic math. They are very poor at critical reasoning and don’t comprehend things like evidence or facts, so they’re easily convinced by hunches or baseless claims prominent people make.

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    You’re always playing catchup when in a conversation with others; they’re racing ahead on the topic, already knowing both sides of the discussion and throwing their own spin on it, and you’re just sitting there staring at them mouth-agape as you try to process what is being said, but can’t quite grasp the base concepts nor the terminology because they’re talking above the base level.

    The smart thing to do is to just interject quickly with simple questions to highlight your supposed ignorance, and get some quick definitions to keep you at least somewhat up-to-date in the conversation.

    But you don’t… either too ashamed of your own ignorance to draw attention to it, or rejecting it outright instead of facing the humiliation and telling yourself that you’re not that interested in the topic anyway.

    That’s how it feels to me, anyhow

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      2 months ago

      Honestly, that’s a nuanced take on the nature of conversation. I’m sure you’ve got a good head, you’re just not a nerd like them.

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      For what it’s worth, I’m very familiar with that feeling too, despite excelling academically and a high score on IQ tests. Ignorance is not a lack of intelligence, it’s more likely a lack of experience. And every culture, job and hobby will have their own terminology and assumed knowledge, so not even the Einsteins could pretend to already know it all.

      I listen to music all the time, I’ve composed amateur music myself, and enjoy occasionally reading wikipedia for trivia of music theory, but if two musicians start talking about basic stuff like major and minor chords I’m already out of my depth. Do I do the smart thing and ask them to explain? Or do I just nod until they talk about something I know, or tell myself I don’t actually care about music theory?

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        I also apparently have high IQ according to online tests and my mind still glazes over conversations even when it’s a topic that I’m supposedly an expert on. I know all the words. If you were then down and I read them, I’ll be able to make perfect sense of them. But a real time conversation? Forget it.

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      This is simply a symptom of not being experienced in or knowledgeable in the topic of the conversation.

      Not being knowledgeable, or not being smart, is unrelated to IQ. Knowing a great deal about a topic or field is not the same as having a high IQ.

  • PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social
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    I bet it’s fucking awesome.

    Some idiot says “this is how things work” (and explains things in a way that aren’t true at all)

    And then I’d be like “yeah that’s good enough for me.”

    And I’d watch sports and not be worrying all the time.

    As it is, I unfortunately see through most bullshit and realize im surrounded by people who don’t.

    I am the scientist at the beginning of every disaster movie. Ignored until it is too late. Then blamed.

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    Depends on what you mean by “low.” At a certain level low enough IQ is associated with intellectual disability, and a difficulty functioning in society. IQ is normalized so half of people have, by definition, an IQ lower than 100, and half have an IQ above 100. 15 points is a standard deviation, so about 68% of people fall between 85 and 115, and the remaining 32% fall within the “tails”. I assume by “Low IQ” you would mean the ~16% of the population below 85 IQ, and probably the ~13.5% that fall in the range of 70-85, as below 70 is getting into intellectual disability territory.

    Statistically, people in this band do worse in just about every metric for social success. Lower income, higher crime rates, higher rates of drug addiction, poorer health outcomes, etc. However, it is difficult to disentangle these impacts from poverty. Populations’ IQs raise when they become less poor, and people regardless of income tend to be less poor if they have higher IQs. The cycle of poverty is deeply intertwined with IQ, and poverty causes a lot of the social issues associated with low IQ. There is a lot of evidence that as access to education and a more “intellectually rich” upbringing increase IQ, and such things are less available to poor people for a variety of reasons.

    As for what it’s like, from my understanding speaking to people I suspect are in this band the main things are a non-inquisitive world view, a sense of resignation around not understanding abstract concepts, and low self esteem associated with these perceived shortcomings. Society does not treat these people kindly as a whole, and I think that we could all stand to be kinder to one another. I also think that our economic system is geared in such a way that not only are low IQ people punished for that, but they are also made to feel that it is a personal shortcoming even though these things are defined statistically such that there is always a group of people at the bottom who are going to be left behind.

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    I’m not stupid stupid, but I’m a lot less intelligent now than I was as a child. Not sure if that’s standard growing-up stuff or other factors. I think I’m average now, but I used to be really quite smart.

    Whatevers to blame, it sucks. I struggle to remember names of people/things/processes, or things to do today. I go through the day based on vibes. I look at a page of information, or a tedious form to fill in, and it’s physically uncomfortable to slog through it. I can feel my brain groaning, there’s tension and anxiety in my body. Frustration that this should be so easy and instead I’m having to actually concentrate.

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      I’ll be honest man, this doesn’t sound like “Low IQ”, it sounds like maybe a mental disorder that you haven’t been able to treat yet (ADHD is the first one to come to mind.)

      I say that because I can relate a bit, but I have been formally diagnosed with ADHD. I would maybe look into the symptoms of that and others and you might be surprised to find that you relate to it.

      You’re not stupid because you can’t concentrate, just my two cents 🤙

      (I would also argue that a “Low IQ” individual wouldn’t necessarily be able to recognize the issues you describe.)

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    Long Covid with ME has made me increasingly dumber. It sucks bad. I have difficulty finding words, following conversations, understanding long texts and just plain remembering things. It’s devastating to be more stupid but knowing that you could do better.

    Just a few minutes ago I said I couldn’t play Leisure Suit Larry 7 because it’s too hard. Sucks ass.

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          As a fellow sufferer of Covid Brain Fog, it is being dumb.

          Even if it’s temporary, which so far hasn’t shaken out that way for me. I am currently the dumbest I have ever been.

          The amount of things I used to do for fun that I now have had to quit or hire out to others because I can’t do it anymore is deeply demoralizing and frustrating. It feels like a part of my identity has been stolen from me.