• jaschen@lemm.ee
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    So a few years ago I wanted to play a Japanese version of a rhythm game that isn’t available to purchase in the USA and decided to try my hand at modding my switch for this one game.

    After(poorly) doing it, I wasn’t able to play that game AND Nintendo bricked me. All my games on my switch that I purchased were unable to download or play anymore.

    So I went and set out to mod my switch correctly.

    Now if I actually wanted to give Nintendo money, they won’t allow me to. So my only option from then on is to pirate.

    They basically turned a potentially paying customer to a non paying customer.

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      So, this is a basic security principle. If the system of access is too “secure” or too inconvenient, people will create workarounds.

      Need keys for all the doors every second of every day? You’ll find duct tape on all the latches.

      Password is 15 characters and changes every 60 days? You’re going to find post-its under keyboards.

      Spread all digital content across 8 streaming providers that cost about $180/y? Torrent time.

      Nintendo wants to brick users for trying to play an out of region game they paid for? They’ll never pay again and will reverse engineering your shit out of spite.

      Same thing we saw with the music industry utterly failing to embrace internet distribution. Limewire and bearshare are their fucking lunch.

      When will they learn to just make access easy? People, generally, would rather pay than pirate but when you start making shit difficult, nobody wants to play your games anymore and you see massive losses.

      Meet your customers where they’re at!

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    I’ve been pretty consistently buying Nintendo consoles, but I’m not buying this one. Not just because of this, but I challenge these assholes to brick the device I end up playing their games on.

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    i can’t wait to pirate their new switch 2 games 🥰 its gonna be awesome.

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    At this point I’m surprised Nintendo still allows people to play their games at their own homes, and not exclusively in official Nintendo-branded Play Rooms that only exist in like 6 places outside Tokyo and costs $20/hr to rent.

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    Damn, first they get shady patents and now this. They’re really on a roll for being a pretty unethical company.

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    At this point I want Switch 2 to flop so hard they go the way of the Sega and start licensing their IPs on other platforms, giving up on consoles. A shame, too, since their tech is little kid hand friendly and the PC market doesn’t seem keen on tiny screen handhelds.

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    Wait, it doesn’t appear to be the same within the EU.

    Both the French and German EULA seems to say that if you alter a digital product, the digital product might be rendered unusable. Although my French and German is bad, so someone please double check.

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      Apparently Torzo exists already!

      Also knowing how butthurt Nintendo is rn it probably means Switch 2 is vulnerable to emulation so not that long probably.

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    I don’t seem how threatening to brick a device is intended to help you sell more of them. Like I was seriously considering buying a Switch 2 even recently, but this is really the nail in the coffin. Why should I pay money for something that could stop working on their whims? Because it’s not like these measures have been 100% accurate in the past.

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      Because it’s not like these measures have been 100% accurate in the past.

      This is the part that really frustrates me. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not a fan of the wording here. Account ban? Sure, against TOS, etc. But affecting the device is a whole other story. Especially when prior account bans have come under dubious circumstances.

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      youre not the exploitable target audience.

      like legit 100% evil intent, cant even argue against that

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        The target audience still goes online. Generally Facebook and mumsnet. Wait til it happens to one of them and the stories go round like wildfire.

        With that market, especially at big luxury prices like a console, you exist solely on good faith.

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          you dont see the whole “children of rich western parents really dont care” audience?

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            They won’t give the first shit about piracy policies or anything like that, but they’ll care that MummyD123s DH bought their DD an electric brick that won’t keep them quiet any more.

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    Ah. So now we’re merely ‘licensing’ physical hardware we paid for and have in our homes. right?

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      You always have with Nintendo products. They have always had very aggressive licensing practices. In the early days they were more flexing them on developers, but it does not surprise me that in the wake of everyone telling them that modding and emulators can be explicitly legal that they would turn that particularly litigious aspect of their family friendly brand on the customers.