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Well this goes both ways
it does. the trolls never want to block people though. if they did, they wouldn’t have anyone to play with.
Why did you tag NSFW
Gosh I really don’t like this art style but it’s better than whatever I can draw so whatever.
Pizza Cake’s art style is at least better than their humour. Absolute garbage comedic insight.
Another daring and controversial take from Pizzacake.
Maybe I should block more. People say you only need to block like five users to drastically improve your Lemmy experience.
The irony of THIS comic is, you could apply that argument to every single opinion in existence.
The online comment context and usage of “Why won’t you debate, are you scared” suggests the response is directed at online trolls, people who argue in bad faith, and imperiously demand rigourous debate without offering the same let alone an ounce of intellectual generosity, i.e. sealioning. In contrast, something like a movie review is a structured evaluation is still an opinion, but it doesn’t deride readers for not engaging with it.
I DON’T OWE YOU AN AUDIENCE FOR YOUR ANNOYING BULLSHIT
Why is this marked as nsfw?
because some users on here are triggered by PCC and are dealing with feelings of inferiority and have contempt for an artist that refuses to put up with their bullshit.
ironically, it’s pretty much this comic.
how can anyone dislike pizzacake, especially on leftist lemmy?
It’s low hanging fruit, that’s why. My reaction to most of her content is “no shit”
Also, her art style is just incredibly bland and uninteresting.
that’s one way to say you haven’t seen many of her comics
You’re hilarious.
Or people don’t want to see stuff from someone who threatens people with litigation for making fun of their comics
Always crickets when it comes to legitimate criticism that doesn’t align with their belief that the only reason anyone could ever possibly dislike pizzacake is because she’s a woman.
I’ve only seen this artist reposted on lemmy and never knew the first thing about her other than her comics being pretty bland and art unimpressive despite being frequently posted, what is going on with all these people white knighting for her?? If you like her, cool. If you don’t like her, also cool?? What is the problem here??
The closest thing to “harassing” I’ve witnessed is of those with fairly reasonable criticism of the comic presented to us, accusing them of harassing an artist that isn’t even on this platform.
Can you give me a quick overview of the situation?
Do you remember when Star Wars Episode 7 came out and droves of people had very serious and legitimate criticisms of Rey being a Mary Sue not clearly motivated by Rey and Finn being women and black “DEI hires”? Because I do.
Harassment is a bit more complicated than whether the criticisms seem legitimate or not. Another example: “forced bussing” was an argument republicans invented years ago to appeal to racists who were no longer allowed to say the n-word publically. But that argument was really about “safety,” of course, obviously.
What does this have to do with Pizzacake? I dunno. I do know that posting a comic of hers is a remarkably effective way of getting lemmy’s beehive to start buzzing.
Is it? I’ve never seen this before and seen lots of this artist’s comics posted here. It does seem it’s just as much one side as it is the other though.
Also I understand the concept of
fear mongeringveiled bigotry. That doesn’t even remotely appear to be what is happening here and, not to be overly pearl clutch-y, but as somebody with intimate knowledge of this history I honestly find the comparison to the civil rights era insulting. People expressing their dislike of an artist with questionable behavior on the internet is not the same thing as politicians in the real world using fear tactics as a fig leaf for their racist goals of preventing black people from fully integrating into american society.I understand you mean well but this doesn’t really answer for me why the defensiveness is so over the top.
Does your intimate knowledge of the civil rights era include how people use issues in euphemism to lie about what actually motivates them? You know, the whole reason I even brought up that example.
I’ve never seen this before
That doesn’t even remotely appear to be what is happening here
Okay, realize for a moment that the fig leaf strategy is specifically meant to capture people like you. I know it doesn’t seem that way; that’s the point of them hiding their intent. I’m not critiquing their points, I’m asking why they’re spending so much energy on this. I’ve seen lots of comics I don’t like. I scroll past them.
Here’s a question: Gamergate. Was Anita Sarkeesian really that bad a journalist? Or did people hyper-fixate on her shortcomings for months longer than necessary as a way of damaging the reputations of her and feminism broadly?
You and I both know now, today, that gamergate was bullshit. But did people—maybe you’re very special, but I don’t mean you, I mean people—know back then that “ethics in games journalism” is not really what those people were upset about? Because I don’t know if you remember, but gamergate was pretty popular for a while.
this doesn’t really answer for me why the defensiveness is so over the top
I think they’re attacking a woman they don’t like. That’s in the subtext of my other comment.
Uh, they spent the small amount of energy it takes to leave a few comments on the internet because the same painfully unfunny comic strip keeps coming up in their feed and they don’t understand where the popularity comes from? That’s why I’m here at least. Lemmy is still relatively small, I don’t get that many posts to interact with. If it’s so much energy to spend, then I’m fundamentally asking the same question as you. Why are these people spending so much of their energy defending her?
I don’t see why it has to be anything more than that and I really don’t appreciate the condescension, to suggest that I’ve fallen for some rhetorical manipulation that you think you’re somehow immune from. Yes, I was also here on the internet when those things were happening. It’s not that I don’t understand it, it’s that this is not that. There are legitimate reasons to dislike this person and their comics.
Do you really think that being annoying like this; suggesting that any and all criticism towards any woman on the internet simply must be based on her gender; is going to dispel negative attention from actual sexists? Do you really think that you aren’t gonna get a lot of false positives, from people simply expressing their legitimate criticisms on a platform specifically made for the purpose, and push those people away from whatever your message is by presuming to know what they are thinking and aggressively using that to condescend to them and dismiss anything they have to say?
Also yes, it was very obvious even to the least politically engaged person that gamergate was about sexism. Yes, even as it was happening. That’s like the whole reason people took part in it. They knew what they were doing just as well as the people calling them on it and were pretty open about their sexism. They weren’t career politicians trying to pander to a racist base without sparking major backlash, so they could quietly pass laws to prevent integration; they were gamers having their little boys club on the internet, being flagrantly sexist and bad faith. What even is this line of reasoning??
If you like this person as an artist and identify with the comic you can just say that and engage normally, if you don’t then why would you go out of your way to defend them and suggest that their gender has anything to do with it? You don’t have to keep explaining the same point, I know what you’re saying and I disagree.
I don’t give a damn about your argument, you’re taking the web too serious. That’s why i block yo ass because if you stopped being annoying i would just ignore you.
But alas you got nothing better to do, so it’s a block.
Double benefit from my perspective. I block people for three reasons, they are not mutually exclusive. Willful stupidity and being argumentative. If someone refuses to learn objective truth or insists I believe their objectively wrong position I have no need to interact with them in the future. I’m done with them. The third reason is getting the last word, myself or them. I have a hard time shutting up sometimes, so if someone meets either of the above criterial and has to continue to keep commenting on any rebuttal I make I just block them. There’s no reason to allow myself to continue the interaction, and the other person has no interest in a good faith discussion.
Imagine getting triggered for something so simple and stupid.
Are you talking about the artist or the person the artist is complaining about?
Both are equally pathetic. Having said that, only one person made the comic
Nobody is changing their mind from modern debates online. We are in a culture of anti-intellectualism. So there really is no point. I only block if someone is annoying or there is no point in engagement.
the basic and long forgotten sloga. Of “don’t feed the trolls”
I accept opinions other than my own, but if there is no sincere commitment from the other, why bother. Don’t feed the trolls.
“why did you block me we’re trying to have a debate”
“because i want to shitpost about doctor who on twitter not debate some random dick about how they think i shouldn’t exist”
Just did that a minute ago.
Man, this post gave me so many new people to block!
I don’t block people. It’s better to downvote them.
