links in body.

I saw a post yesterday about chemtrails and everybody poopooed the thought of secret civilian chemical testing by the US government.

Unfortunately, the Church committee, the 1975 senate committee that outed the US intelligence agencies and US military for their human rights abuses against US civilians and military personnel, received direct testimony from those agencies conducting the experiments that various branches of the US government, without notification or consent, absolutely and admittedly conducted live civilian experiments with harmful chemical and biological agents and weapons via sea, land and air, beginning at the very latest in the early 1940s and continuing for at least 30 testing years, supposedly ending in the late 1970s after the experiments were exposed by the 1975 Senate committee chaired by Frank Church.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_Committee

while chemical and biological agents were dropped by air hundreds of times(chemtrails) onto unaware US civilian populations, chemical and biological weapons and toxins were also sprayed over dozens of US cities without notification or consent via Operation sea spray and related operations:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Sea-Spray

these abuses are settled US history.

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    you’re afraid of concise, undeniable facts. not a shocker.

    doesn’t change the facts or the consistent point of this post: that there were real chemtrails, there were biological and chemical weapons experiments that the US government, military and intelligence agencies admitted to conducting on US citizens without consen, during their testimony in the church committee hearings.

    swing away.

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      My whole point is you mix truth and lies. You pointing out the true parts over and over now, is consistent with this. So is you doing ninja edits to hide when the lie parts are caught. It’s all in the quotes and timestamps.

      Do you have any evidence of me lying anywhere?

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        your whole point is to discredit at the facts of the post, but this post has been consistent top to bottom, and entirely reliably source, so you’re not going to make it any farther than the starting line you’re still hunkered behind.

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          You should review my old comments, that is not an accurate description of what I’ve said. Perhaps you have me confused with someone else. From my earliest and still completely unedited comments, I have said you say some true things, and some lies, and that you mix them together.

          I have never tried to “discredit all” of anything. I have fully acknowledged that some things you say are true. You just lie alongside the true things, and then delete them when you are caught.

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            no, I don’t think I will help you muddy the waters in your attempt to discredit factual history.

            but you keep trying. I’m sure eventually you’ll make it past the starting line you’re hunkered behind.

            I’m just kidding, I don’t think you will.

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              Doesn’t matter. Everyone else will have read through my comments all at once just to get to this point. Since they read them all together they will remember easily, and notice that mine are not edited.

              By the way, going back and deleting things for “clarity” is very cowardly. A real man does not do such things. Even if they make a mistake, they just admit it, which takes confidence and courage. Trying to hide things instead is weak, cowardly and shameful, just fyi.

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                keep trying to muddy those waters, maybe you’ll finally make progress after another 20 comments.

                The post is the same, the facts are the same, all the evidence for chemtrails and biological weapons testing on US citizens by their own government is right there and still available.

                dang, you bitter.

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                  There is an edit marker next to your post, made when it was already hours old. It is obviously not the same. Fortunately, I quoted from it back then, so people can clearly see what it originally said. You cannot change this.

                  The only thing that has stayed the same throughout, is me. The evidence is there for everyone to see.

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                    whatever minutia you’re focused on does absolutely nothing to mitigate the historical facts of this post.

                    the evidence is there for everyone to see: the US government admitted to using chemtrails to disperse biological weapons on non-consenting US citizens.

                    story hasn’t changed yet, it’s going to stay the same.

                    all of the links above contain the documents, testimony and recordings provided by the US government in 1976.

                    keep swinging.