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I saw a post yesterday about chemtrails and everybody poopooed the thought of secret civilian chemical testing by the US government.

Unfortunately, the Church committee, the 1975 senate committee that outed the US intelligence agencies and US military for their human rights abuses against US civilians and military personnel, received direct testimony from those agencies conducting the experiments that various branches of the US government, without notification or consent, absolutely and admittedly conducted live civilian experiments with harmful chemical and biological agents and weapons via sea, land and air, beginning at the very latest in the early 1940s and continuing for at least 30 testing years, supposedly ending in the late 1970s after the experiments were exposed by the 1975 Senate committee chaired by Frank Church.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_Committee

while chemical and biological agents were dropped by air hundreds of times(chemtrails) onto unaware US civilian populations, chemical and biological weapons and toxins were also sprayed over dozens of US cities without notification or consent via Operation sea spray and related operations:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Sea-Spray

these abuses are settled US history.

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    it sure does if you keep pouting and asking me to distort the facts.

    the facts started at the top, they’re staying the same down here.

    nothing has changed, you can read the post and the sources at the top and there’s nothing you can do about their verified accuracy and the live biological agents that the US government dispersed on non-consenting US citizens.

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      I’m not asking you to distort anything. I’m asking you to tell me where in your sources it supports you when you said this:

      admitted to using chemtrails to disperse biological weapons

      Because what I read is another, much less dangerous bacteria was spread to study how spreading happened. And we can tell, too, because tons of people didn’t die, and weapons are for killing people. Make sense? Or you can just admit that you’ve been subtly twisting the truth to suit your ends.

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        it doesn’t matter what kind of misdirection you try.

        you either misunderstood the source, which seems very likely, or you didn’t read the actual source, which seems even more likely.

        you should read the church committee report, it’s a fascinating several hundreds of pages.

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          Kinda hard to call it misdirection when I’m directly quoting you from a different comment you made and asking you to either support it or admit you were twisting words around. Seems like a pretty straight direction to me, no? I mean, if you really read it, it’d be pretty easy to say where in it you got that from.

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            kind of easy to call it a misdirection when you’re taking my words out of the provided context and pretending they mean something they don’t.

            pretty easy to call it a misdirection when you’re avoiding the thrust of the post to try to nitpick irrelevant details.

            keep swinging.

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              In what way can context change the meaning of “releasing weapons” into something else?

              I already told you several times, you take certain true things, mix them with lies, and then spin it together into your overall message. Then you do ninja edits when these are pointed out. Did you forget?

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                yeah I get it, you like to mix truth with lies and project your confusion onto others.

                still don’t care, your juvenike tricks aren’t going to work here.

                I’m going to stick with the facts, you can prance around in your make-believe land.

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                  Ahh, the “I know you are, but what am I?” defense. I see we’ve regressed back to grade school. And you call me juvenile? lol I guess Trump does that one too, so you could also be really elderly.

                  Or, y’know, you could just admit you like adding things to your sources beyond what they actually say.

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                    You do seem to have shrunk back into yourself.

                    it’s good you’re feeling shame; you should be at this point.

                    “I guess Trump does…”

                    invoking your hero? he can’t help you here, especially since like you he can’t read.

                    “adding things to your sources…”

                    You’re confused, the facts are the facts and your sour lemons don’t matter one whit.

                    the church committee documented a biological weapons testing program on US citizens by the US government.

                    and the facts don’t care jack about your wrong track.

                    wallow in your ignorance.

                    oh, but keep proving me right, by all means.