links in body.

I saw a post yesterday about chemtrails and everybody poopooed the thought of secret civilian chemical testing by the US government.

Unfortunately, the Church committee, the 1975 senate committee that outed the US intelligence agencies and US military for their human rights abuses against US civilians and military personnel, received direct testimony from those agencies conducting the experiments that various branches of the US government, without notification or consent, absolutely and admittedly conducted live civilian experiments with harmful chemical and biological agents and weapons via sea, land and air, beginning at the very latest in the early 1940s and continuing for at least 30 testing years, supposedly ending in the late 1970s after the experiments were exposed by the 1975 Senate committee chaired by Frank Church.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_Committee

while chemical and biological agents were dropped by air hundreds of times(chemtrails) onto unaware US civilian populations, chemical and biological weapons and toxins were also sprayed over dozens of US cities without notification or consent via Operation sea spray and related operations:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Sea-Spray

these abuses are settled US history.

  • Carrolade@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    17 days ago

    In what way can context change the meaning of “releasing weapons” into something else?

    I already told you several times, you take certain true things, mix them with lies, and then spin it together into your overall message. Then you do ninja edits when these are pointed out. Did you forget?

    • Varyk@sh.itjust.worksOP
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      17 days ago

      yeah I get it, you like to mix truth with lies and project your confusion onto others.

      still don’t care, your juvenike tricks aren’t going to work here.

      I’m going to stick with the facts, you can prance around in your make-believe land.

      • Carrolade@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        17 days ago

        Ahh, the “I know you are, but what am I?” defense. I see we’ve regressed back to grade school. And you call me juvenile? lol I guess Trump does that one too, so you could also be really elderly.

        Or, y’know, you could just admit you like adding things to your sources beyond what they actually say.

        • Varyk@sh.itjust.worksOP
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          17 days ago

          You do seem to have shrunk back into yourself.

          it’s good you’re feeling shame; you should be at this point.

          “I guess Trump does…”

          invoking your hero? he can’t help you here, especially since like you he can’t read.

          “adding things to your sources…”

          You’re confused, the facts are the facts and your sour lemons don’t matter one whit.

          the church committee documented a biological weapons testing program on US citizens by the US government.

          and the facts don’t care jack about your wrong track.

          wallow in your ignorance.

          oh, but keep proving me right, by all means.

          • Carrolade@lemmy.worldEnglish
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            17 days ago

            I have no issues with you sticking to the facts. If you just did that, we’d have no issues, remember? It’s when you add things, remember your ninja edit to delete “radiological”? Don’t blame me for calling you out on this stuff. Or, y’know, just let me know why you like to twist things.

            edit: btw, “sour lemons?” Are you actually an older person? I haven’t heard that one in ages.

            • Varyk@sh.itjust.worksOP
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              17 days ago

              “I have no issues with you sticking to the facts.”

              wouldn’t matter if you continued to fight against the facts anyway.

              good of you to recognize that.

              back to your nitpicking?

              how irrelevant to the facts.

              • Carrolade@lemmy.worldEnglish
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                17 days ago

                I’m not fighting against the facts. I’m fighting against you. You thinking everything you say is a fact without having to prove it is a you problem. Doesn’t mean I have to go along with it. Nitpicking is about facts, you know. True/false.

                • Varyk@sh.itjust.worksOP
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                  16 days ago

                  you keep ranting and playing pretend, I’ll repeat the same facts I first posted, just as true 30 comments later.

                  good deal.

                  The US government admitted to using biological weapons on non-consenting US citizens to test the efficacy of those weapons, and no amount of your bitterness at having to learn something new can change that evidence.

                  • Carrolade@lemmy.worldEnglish
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                    16 days ago

                    Playing pretend in what way? I told you, as soon as you support your specific statements that you’ve made, or admit you were wrong, we’re cool. I don’t see what is being pretended.

                    Specifically, you saying “using weapons” in this case. The bacteria were not weapons. They were studying weapons, by using other bacteria that behave similar to weapons. I don’t think you actually care, but I do I’m afraid. Where in the report does it say weapons were released? Not studied, released?