The Germans were utterly fucked when it came to gathering intelligence because threatening captives doesn’t work. Allies put captured generals in a luxury prison and bugged them.
That was true of Nazi interrogators with the exception of Hanns Scharff. He’s famously known in military intelligence for his use of kindness to extract information from unknowing participants.
It is worth pointing out that the national socialist party existed before Hitler. As Hitler gained power he forced out the true socialist. By the time he was in power there was no more real socialism in the party.
Socialism is an inherently globalist ideology. Any attempt to replace that with nationalism will lead to results just like the Nazis. Or the CCP, for that matter.
The Nazis weren’t good guys, even before the takeover and the emphasis on eugenics and anti-semitism.
Oh never said they were, I just think it important for people to remember how narcissistic autocrats tend to rewrite history so they were always there first, that is their ideas. They are almost always not the founder. They take popular movements/ideas/products, force there way in and then came it was always theirs.
It is a good reminder for when there are modern examples.
Ah yes of course, how could one possibly assume unkindness of someone just because they’re a Nazi. It’s just short for two common words, surely we can’t assume genocidal intent or otherwise fairly criticize anyone for something so trivial
Without looking into it, I can guarantee you that no one involved in British Intelligence in WW2 were in the US Army Military Police in Iraq 60 years later. Not everything is connected.
Yanks are also dogshit at espionage for this reason. I think by Allies this is more referring to the British, whose intelligence was instrumental in winning the war.
Edit: I’m an idiot, the article says RAF, it was 100% the British.
The Germans were utterly fucked when it came to gathering intelligence because threatening captives doesn’t work. Allies put captured generals in a luxury prison and bugged them.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-20698098
That was true of Nazi interrogators with the exception of Hanns Scharff. He’s famously known in military intelligence for his use of kindness to extract information from unknowing participants.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanns_Scharff
It’s almost like Nazis were naturally unkind people.
Yeah. It’s in the name
Nazi is short for national socialist. That wouldn’t per se suggest unkindness by name alone. The appearance is deceptive, of course.
It is worth pointing out that the national socialist party existed before Hitler. As Hitler gained power he forced out the true socialist. By the time he was in power there was no more real socialism in the party.
Socialism is an inherently globalist ideology. Any attempt to replace that with nationalism will lead to results just like the Nazis. Or the CCP, for that matter.
The Nazis weren’t good guys, even before the takeover and the emphasis on eugenics and anti-semitism.
Oh never said they were, I just think it important for people to remember how narcissistic autocrats tend to rewrite history so they were always there first, that is their ideas. They are almost always not the founder. They take popular movements/ideas/products, force there way in and then came it was always theirs.
It is a good reminder for when there are modern examples.
“Globalist” is a white supremacist dogwhistle for Jews.
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No, it was a joke. Like the “are we the baddies?” meme
Some, I assume, are good people.
You know they’re not sending their best. 🙄
It kind of does, if you follow the implications and start asking how they resolve the oxymorons.
Turns out, by ignoring one of the words entirely.
I feel like they modify each other.
Socialism is for the betterment of the community. Nationalism allows them to define who is included in that community.
It’s also the Cletus of the time and place.
Ah yes of course, how could one possibly assume unkindness of someone just because they’re a Nazi. It’s just short for two common words, surely we can’t assume genocidal intent or otherwise fairly criticize anyone for something so trivial
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Without looking into it, I can guarantee you that no one involved in British Intelligence in WW2 were in the US Army Military Police in Iraq 60 years later. Not everything is connected.
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Yanks are also dogshit at espionage for this reason. I think by Allies this is more referring to the British, whose intelligence was instrumental in winning the war.
Edit: I’m an idiot, the article says RAF, it was 100% the British.
Even regular pows had it pretty good, lots were out to work on farms in the Midwest then stayed and hung their shingle.