• dan@upvote.au
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    8 months ago

    One of my favourite naming schemes is MikroTik’s. CRS312-4C+8XG-RM looks like a mess initially, but it’s very logical. The features of the product are literally in its name:

    • CRS Cloud Router Switch (product name)
    • 3rd generation
    • 12 ports total
    • 4C+ = 4x combo (RJ45 and SFP+) 10Gbps ports
    • 8XG = 8x 10Gbps RJ45 ports (XG = multi gigabit)
    • RM = rack mountable
    • drathvedro@lemm.ee
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      8 months ago

      A lot of the frustration comes when they try to make something like that but fall just a bit short. From the top of my head, Yamaha HS8WI means studio monitor with 8 inch driver, W is for white and I stands for built-in mounting points. But then, HS8S is a completely different thing entirely. Or sound cards, where a lot of manufacturers follow a naming standard that goes something like 2x2, 2x4, 4x4 etc, where the first number is the amount of inputs with latter being the amount of outputs… until you get to 18x20 where it typically means it has 8 inputs and 10 outputs, but with an ability to connect 10 more ins and outs via ADAT, which in practice means you can just buy the same unit twice for a 16x20 setup and wonder where the 2 missing inputs are.

      • Blackmist@feddit.ukEnglish
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        8 months ago

        Just doesn’t sound as sexy as NetFuckerPro Phantom Xtreme. With four ports and speeds up to 100Mbps!

        • Skates@feddit.nl
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          8 months ago

          I understand you might’ve meant it as a joke, but if the universe allows it and there is a netfuckerpro, I will buy it twenty times before I even read the specs of the crs5b278n492653b

      • dan@upvote.au
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        8 months ago

        I don’t see it a lot with consumer electronics. Most other network switches I’ve dealt with don’t have as useful names as MikroTik’s.

        TP-Link have a switch called the TL-SX3016F. Sure, you can guess that the 16 means 16 ports, but there’s no discernable info other than that. Netgear have names like XS716T which are also meaningless other than the 16. D-link have DGS-1510-20 which is similar (20 ports).

      • rushaction@programming.dev
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        8 months ago

        Yep, I’ve even personally witnessed the arguments in business to business sales. When the marketing gets invited, sanity is no longer a welcome.

      • RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        8 months ago

        The problem is that it’s often harder to get the technical end-user to convince their non-technical boss to buy your product than to convince the boss directly. But you gotta use non-technical arguments then.

    • TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee
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      8 months ago

      Hey! A fellow mikrotik enjoyer!

      Their equipment is fun but there sure are a lot of ways to cut off your own hands. I wish more manufacturers implemented safe mode like they do, it makes tinkering and figuring things out much easier

      • dan@upvote.au
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        8 months ago

        Honestly I’m just using mine as a basic switch at the moment. It was the cheapest 12-port 10GBase-T switch I could find at the time I bought it, but all the extra features in their OS are a nice bonus.

        • TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee
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          8 months ago

          Mikrotik devices can all do basically anything, Router OS is a powerful tool. Learning curve can be pretty intense, but they’re great devices and run a surprising amount of infrastructure.

          Off the top of my head I know they’re used by ISPs, law enforcement, EMS, and some military applications as integrated hardware- particularly in the eu.

          Anyway, interesting stuff

            • TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee
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              8 months ago

              They’re rock solid reliable, I’ve see the things work for years in an in non climate controlled uninsulated shed. A lightning strike finally took that one out, literally blew the top off of it

      • shneancy@lemmy.world
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        8 months ago

        nah my favourite headphones from audiotechnica are uhh ATH-M50X (had to google it again despite recommending them left and right for years), and when I was doing headphones research all of them had very “memorable” names akin to keyboard smashing

        • Moneo@lemmy.world
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          8 months ago

          At least that’s organized in a someone palatable format, ATH - audio technica so the model is really just M50X which is way easier to remember.

  • dan@upvote.au
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    8 months ago

    I’ve got three monitors at work: Two Dell monitors arranged horizontally, and a Samsung that’s vertical.

    The Dells are U3219Q. U for UltraSharp (product name), 32 for 32 inch, and a little bit extra to differentiate it from other UltraSharp 32 inch models. Nice.

    The Samsung is a LF32TU874VNXGO. Just… what? Samsung why do you do this to us?

    • LazerFX@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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      8 months ago

      The “other little bit” is the year - 19 means model year 2019. It might be out anywhere between late 18 and early 20.

      For many years, I had a l dell U2408WFP - 24", 2008 model year, wide-screen, forget what f was, professional. Was an awesome monitor. Last year, I moved up to 2 matched LG 32" 4K’s, but I won’t remember their naming system now, let alone in 16 years.

      • dan@upvote.au
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        8 months ago

        The “other little bit” is the year - 19 means model year 2019.

        Wow - This is very useful to know. Thanks! I’ve got a U4021QW at home, and a friend just bought a newer version of it (U4025QW).

    • palordrolap@kbin.social
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      8 months ago

      “Take two bottles into the shower? Not me. I just LF32TU874VNXGO.”

      … on second thought this is rubbish even if you do remember those TV ads.

      … on third thought, there’s something darkly funny about taking electronics into the shower.

      Get that lithium battery nice and soggy.

  • Eheran@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    I disagree with everyone else here. This is even worse that sequential naming schemes.

    Best is a name that actually contains information to distinguish different products. Look at fridge, washing machine, … names from Samsung, Bosch, … You think the exactly same unit with some minute (hard to even find!) difference has almost the same name? No, fuck right off, there is no correlation. Have fun searching any specific product.

    4K Monitor should have 4K in it’s name. 32" diagonal? 32 in the name. Not “KKEORGKE9183FK38F”.

    • bisby@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      8 months ago

      The most commonly cited monitor in recent years for this is “AW3423DWF”… Which is AlienWare 34" (no idea what 23DW is) Freesync. I assume the 23DW has a point to it too.

      Point is, people see a lot of characters and complain when in reality it is exactly what you are referring to. The name is an encoded version of its capabilities. Its just that the encoding isn’t always clear because if every company used the same encoding they would have the same name. and if there are 2 similar monitors you would need to have every feature in the name to differentiate them, so the shorthand encoding becomes necessary. (Eg, AW3423DW and AW3423DWF only really differ on freesync vs gsync, thus the F at the end)

      • Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de
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        8 months ago

        D could stand for ‘Dell’ and W might have something to do with WQHD. 23, I have no idea, maybe meant as their flagship monitor in 2023, but that’s a stretch.

        • chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          8 months ago

          Dell owns Alienwar3, so generally I don’t see the need for that. Perhaps display port? 23 is indeed the manufactured year, like the other Dell monitors in this thread.

    • Bronzie@sh.itjust.works
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      8 months ago

      We literally bought a fridge three days ago and it drove me bloody mad.

      The numbers mean absolutely nothing!!!
      And why is the Siemens version cheaper than the Bosch version of the same fridge, and why aren’t they named something even remotely similar???
      Why is this identical fridge $400 more??? (Ended up contacting Bosch to figure it out. It was a damn soft close function. For $400…)

      Ended up going to the store and picking one based on physical testing because God forbid any retailer add anything more than a short text on each product.

      Hope this one lasts us 50 years so I never have to buy another fridge again!

    • glimse@lemmy.world
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      8 months ago

      If you want to see some awful SKUs, look at what HP did when they bought Poly. I’ll give you an example:

      8D8K2AA#ABA. That’s for a Poly x52 video bar.

      83Z51AA#ABA. Poly x70 video bar.

      83Z50AA#ABA. Poly G7500 controller.

      I asked our Poly rep what the naming scheme was and they told me…there isn’t one. HP randomly assigned SKUs.

      Before getting bought out, Poly SKUs were pretty bad (7200-87620-001) but at least the system made sense. You might not be able to name the item but you could at least tell the difference between products and warranties.

  • Demdaru@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    8 months ago

    The new, spectacular, octacular package full of amazement put in front of your eyes, the <Jacob, please find a while to find a name for this>!

  • pyre@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    i prefer this to apple’s method of naming everything the same. someone telling me they have an i-whatever gives no indication to what it is. could be a 15 year old shitty product or a brand new, overpriced shitty product.

  • malloc@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    8 months ago

    I don’t care what they call it. Call it “dogsh1t” for all I care.

    I just want high refresh rate, at least 4K support, 32”, and sub millisecond response times.

  • Addv4@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Honestly it’s better than just having a generic name which they apply over several generations, with the only difference being the year at the end (which they might forget to add on some listing’s). So long as it has a simple way to find the size and resolution from the model id, the rest can be kinda funky as long as I can Google it.

    • cerement@slrpnk.net
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      8 months ago

      if you can actually find it on the monitor (face it, you threw the manuals away last year) – it’s embedded in the black plastic in 8 pt type or it’s only on internal components (void the warranty when you open the case) or it’s a quarter inch QR code in metallic foil your phone won’t focus on

      • Addv4@lemmy.world
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        8 months ago

        On a lot yeah, but even then if it isn’t used and/or doesn’t make lot of logical sense, it’s very, very annoying. A decent example of using both are Alienware ultrawide monitors, which in their name generally have the year, and a model number as well. However, if that model number and the year aren’t listed (not that uncommon in my experience looking at used ones), it’s hard to tell if you are getting the current model or last year’s, as they often look soo similar.

          • ulterno@lemmy.kde.socialEnglish
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            8 months ago

            Yeah. The carcass of a dead ancient dragon can be used to interface with the infinite void, which will help determine the causality that generated the Model no. of the monitor.

      • Buddahriffic@lemmy.world
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        8 months ago

        I’ve got a bin where I put all my manuals. I’ve also started putting extra components that come with it but I didn’t need at the time in there, sometimes even attached to their respective manuals so I can figure out wtf they are for when I come upon them at a later date.

        It’s been working pretty well for me so far. I don’t need the manuals or extra components often, but it’s so nice knowing exactly where to look when I do.

        • TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee
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          8 months ago

          I’m the type of psychopath that reads manuals for fun so I have multiple boxes for things I’ve bought over the years. I have manuals for things I’ve thrown away.

      • Alexstarfire@lemmy.world
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        8 months ago

        Good news, at least for the US folks. A warranty can’t be voided just by opening up an item. Does not matter what the manufacturer says.

    • DrRatso@lemmy.ml
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      8 months ago

      The problem I have with this naming scheme as a consumer is it is hard to find which models are roughly equivalent. Like theyll have their mumbojumbo generic name like ABC24P and this is what you find on reviews but then theres ABC24PE, ABC24PU, ABC24PI3Q and often finding info on if it is just some regional release, different panel or what is actually the difference is problematic.