For me, it was that the Internet never forgets and that you should never enter your real name. In my opinion, both of these rules are now completely ignored.
I’m a faithful follower of never using your real name in social parts of the internet. We don’t need to know and we don’t want to know. The only ones who would want to know are scammers or people wanting to give you a shitty time. I only use my real name online for people and places in where it’s required like talking to agents from my bank, insurance .etc And very few friends know my real name through FB and the circle anyways.
Don’t send nudes online to anybody. I know of some communities where people happily are flaunting it one moment then they make a post later whining about them being exploited or that they thought they were crafty hiding the nudes from someone they’re married with. They delete it but they’re too naive to think that what’s already out there, has most likely been saved by hundreds by now, so you’re fucked either way.
Another is, is that if you want to be understood, then you need to use proper spelling and grammar. I miss the days when you got kicked at because you used ‘u’ in replacement of ‘you’. It’s just two fucking extra letters you lazy asshole. These days saying stupid shit like; ‘yah fr u tha fam’ is somehow a complete sentence. No, I’m going to give you shit for it and if you want me to bother caring with what you have to say, fucking make some sense. I don’t even get offended by insults when they’re poorly spelled, it just tells me what kind of an inept moron you are.
Nah, u wrong fo dat last part homie. Maybe if u tryna have an intellectual discussion then u can write in full n shi. But if it’s just a casual convo, then write casual
20 years ago, if someone said ‘u’ for ‘you’ then I assumed they were young. These days if I see someone use ‘u’ for ‘you’ I assume they are 60+.
These days if I see someone use ‘u’ for ‘you’ I assume they are 60+.
Nah. Indolence knows no cohort.
I’m a faithful follower of never using your real name in social parts of the internet. We don’t need to know and we don’t want to know.
Corollary: there are no girls on the Internet. The simplest way to achieve gender equality (which women ostensibly want) is to not disclose gender in arbitrary conversation or in the profile. If you still do in an anonymous forum, you are likely trying to take advantage of privileges that the patriarchal societal structure offers you in that situation, and in doing so you are upholding it.
But then nobody can use gendered neopronouns.
Which IMO is a good thing. I don’t mind people having their own identity, but if nobody tracks pronouns (including traditional pronouns) then life becomes easier for everyone and there’s less drama. We need fewer pronouns, not more.
That sounds like something an agender person who just assumed they were cis because they went with the flow and never much thought about it would say.
It’s just something a person who wants to see everyone as a unique individual instead of putting them in a box says. Doesn’t matter if it’s about skin color, gender, age, etc. Make it okay to be somewhere vague on a multidimensional spectrum instead of having to make everything black or white. In the end none of these factors even matter when we’re discussing which Bionicle is best.
No, I’m not “assuming I’m cis”. I’m trying not to assume, period. I don’t need a label to know who I’m attracted to and it’s none of your business either.
I’m with you on the no real names, no nudes. “Don’t dox yourself” was the norm pre-Myspace. Facebook mode it almost fashionable to do so.
I’m fine with shorthand and colloquialisms, especially in the era of the smartphone and their lack of physical keyboards.
Facebook made it almost fashionable to do so.
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Zuck: yea so if you ever need info about anyone at harvard just ask
Zuck: i have over 4000 emails, pictures, addresses, sns
Friend: what!? how’d you manage that one?
Zuck: people just submitted it
Zuck: i don’t know why
Zuck: they “trust me”
Zuck: dumb fucks
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I’m fine with shorthand and colloquialisms, especially in the era of the smartphone and their lack of physical keyboards.
It wasn’t even cool once t9 emulation came in. But writing with no regard for the audience, that’s apparently eternal.
Put in the effort or eat the down-votes.
It made sense with t9 texting. Smartphones have easy to use keyboards and autocorrect. No reason to still type like you have to make 7 or 8 key presses to type “you.”
yah fr u tha fam
The only abbreviations in that are fr and u. Fam is slang for family, not a text only abbreviation. “Tha” is just a transcription of how someone may say “the”. Like “da bomb”. “Yah” is either a typo of “yeah” or the same as “tha”. This feels more like an insult against people transcribing vernacular literally. Are you racist?
Yes I am racist. I’m racist to stupid fucks who deliberately twist contexts around to fit a projected narrative of theirs, you asshole.
You’re the one bringing the race into this, not me. This is simply a response. Let me remind you, since your braincells are in single digits, that this is a response to something you brought into the discussion that wasn’t otherwise warranted. Get a fucking clue.
Did you watch the clip? It’s clearly tongue in cheek. Way to self report though, jeez.
“Proper spelling and grammar” according to whom? Is the example you gave incorrect, or just a different dialect of English? AAVE, for example, often gets delegitimized because black people are supposedly less educated, can’t speak “properly”, whatever. But the thing about that is AAVE has its own unique grammar quirks, like habitual “be” as in “I be working”.
As well, my own dialect has quirks that sound wrong to American ears, (such as the very start of this sentence) but if you try and correct me on them I will politely tell you to fuck an icicle.
I don’t care what your skin color is and you’re the one bringing it up. Anybody from all walks of an ethnic background can possess the same levels of less intelligence with potential to sound like that.
You know, just because you tried sounding tough at the end, I’m going to be a deliberate ass by saying - fix your dialect. It’s “I am working” not “I be working”.
It’s “I am working” not “I be working”.
From how it’s used and understood, it’s a lot closer to, “I am in a situation where I find myself working from time to time”. “I am working” suggests you’re doing it right now, “I be working” does not. This example is a unique, condensed way to convey a very specific idea that your idea of “proper English” cannot convey without a boatload of extra words.
If that’s still bothersome to you, well, I guess have fun kicking that proverbial land-crawling fish back into the sea if that’s where you get your jollies. IMO some prescriptivism is okay to get people on the same page, but the moment you use it as a cudgel to beat people who are very clearly already being understood, you’re being a prude.
The fact that dialects of AAVE can convey meaning in a more complex manner than other dialects of English would never cross this genius’ mind.
No, any differences exhibited in AAVE must be incorrect and spoken by the daft /s
You’re ascribing traits common to AAVE as being associated with lesser intelligence. Think about what that says about you. And that’s not even my dialect, dipshit.
“I be working” sounds better though. :p
Yeah, for real. You’re the family.
yo u needa chillax bro lol
I don’t think people really do that anymore, people got faster typing and autocorrect got good
I do use my real name in voice chats provided I’ve known the person for a few days at least, I hate being called by my username in voice
Social media killed online aliases and I have a hard time deciding if we’re all worse for it.
Instinctively I still stick by that, though, as you can tell by my anonymous profile with no bio, but when I volunteer any amount of personal info these days people are often confused that I’m not sharing openly who I am or where I’m from and every time someone does that it weird me out because in the 90s telling (and asking) people those things would have been such a suspicious, sketchy move.
Every time someone does that it weirds me out because in the 90s telling (and asking) people those things would have been such a suspicious, sketchy move.
And now it’s come 180 in that some see it as a red flag if you don’t give up that information. I had someone on a different social media site accuse me of being a bot because I wouldn’t give up the specific town I’m from. I’ve seen it happen to others too. It is both fascinating and insane how viewpoints have changed regarding identifying yourself online.
Shit, I provide every single service with randomly generated data, unless legally required. Just doing my part to pollute the training data.
Not only telling your real name, you weren’t supposed to tell your real birthday, give away your phone number or where you lived, even just saying the city was a bit much. So filling in those things like on Facebook or LinkedIn feels very wrong but it would be even more wrong to have fake info there. So my new rule is, only add ppl I know irl to places I use my real info and everything else can I add anyone to.
Ugh, the world of “branded people.” Everything is like “Add a picture of yourself, or you won’t seem trustworthy!”
Yeesh. Some artists and such can make it using a pseudonym, but it’s rare in more professional circles…but now if you hope to be taken seriously as a professional, you’re expected to put your real super genuine self out there.
…and we get news stories of people being harassed and doxxed literally to death. It’s crazy…
Yes that picture thing happened multiple times at my old job. They kept pestering me about give them a pic to add to the “about us” page and I had to use my face in all channels (jira, slack email and so on) because “otherwise I can’t tell who is who”… my current job handled that much better, they asked for a pic (if I wanted to) to be used as reference for an artist (always the same) to make an avatar and that is now the avatar my coworkers and I use in presentations, systems, emails, webpages anything, we never use real image of our coworkers unless the person wish for it.
Facebook tried that shit with me. Ban until I sent verification of my ID so I sent a paystub photoshopped (badly) with my alias, it was accepted and it’s still there even though I left FB years ago.
I wish they would ban me. I haven’t logged in in over 15 years and even block several of their servers, and yet I still get mails that someone in there commented on something.
Oh I get zero notifications, but the only real reason I haven’t taken it down is that my posts from IG are cross posted there for the business, which I have to have to advertise our specials because of the boomers that use it daily.
in the 90s telling (and asking) people those things would have been such a suspicious, sketchy move.
a/s/l?
We were all 18/f/cal come on man…
Haha true
Aight, I put on my robe and wizard’s hat.
RIP bloodninja.
I was taught to cite websites by using the date the page was updated. Now I’m lucky if web pages even have a date on them.
Either that, or the page says that it’s been updated in the last month, but the content is about how to connect to the World Wide Web ‘(WWW)’ with a free AOL floppy disc
Oh, that one’s easy! Just use the internet archivenevermind.
This shit’s still true. I bet you’re taking me seriously as you read this and everything.
(Except other dogs, and we meet every night on irc:#awoo)
Me too, thanks.
1.0 ratio is the low bar, leech
Never disclose any real personal info.
“Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory” was both a lie (typically invoked to defend/justify bigotry, bullying, and such) and it also served to normalize people being assholes on the internet. “Perfectly well adjusted wholesome ordinary people chant nazi slogans when they log onto the internet, for real guys! It says nothing about their character as people because for some magical reason the internet totally has no connections to lived human experiences!”
I’m glad that the so-called rule fell out of use and the excuse rings very hollow for most people now. Also, I noticed that many “ironic asshole” comedians and entertainers from the “le epic trolling” era wound up being actual assholes that hurt people outside of the act. “Million Dollar Extreme” and Justin Roiland come to mind.
Huh. I never saw that used as an excuse. I always took it as, “normal” people show their true colors when they feel divorced from consequences for their actions/speech
That’s crazy. Makes a lot of sense.
I always tried to be the “shockingly nice person to game with” whenever I could. It was a lot more fun than just being mean to people for no reason.
I never understood that impulse to scream epithets over xbox live or whatever.
I’ve found the best way to really infuriate online edgelords was to be patient yet firm with them.
Like a parent.
Don’t meet people from online.
A/S/L should be replied when you join a chat room
69/yes/flavourtown
13/f/cali
Its crazy someone your age works for the FBI!
In hexidecimal, she’s legal.
Stick with the gopher protocol, http is too poorly implemented.
Don’t feed the trolls.
Of course nowadays its nearly impossible to tell whos spouting racial slurs to get folks mad and whos doing it because they’re just an asshole.
Don’t feed the AI
I remember when it was just funny edgy humor that was clearly satirical for the most part because a lot of us were just dumb kids. It was abrasive and stupid but you had this feeling everyone was in on the joke.
But bizarre satire has turned to deeply held conviction.
I’m not just sad that the mean spirited trolling persists, but that it’s gotten more sincere and often must be taken seriously. :(
Just assume almost everybody is an asshole online and you can’t be wrong. Because anonymity has granted them that capability.
The fact that people being assholes with their real names on Facebook tells me, anonymity has nothing to do with it.
Facebook has no anonymity though. So it’s different. You are sole responsible for who you allow yourself to add that now may know your real name.
I think people being assholes on FB with their real names makes filtering a hell of a lot easier.
More recently, this behaviour is known as “driving engagement”
Boomers are still alive, so literally all of the rules ever as fast as possible.
Special standout for “dont believe everything you read” - “Well fuck you Ill believe everything without thought”
Don’t share your personal information online.
Yeah that’s definitely not being followed anymore.
As in real life, it’s pretty sound advice to ignore, block or otherwise disengage from trolls and other forms of belligerents. Even in the '90s when I first started using the internet, the phrase of the day was “don’t feed the trolls”. But people just can’t help themselves. They will even reply saying “I know you’re a troll, but…”.
The Steam forums are a great example, where every other thread is a fake “is this game woke??” screed. The fact that you can be rewarded for being a cunt there with jesters (which translate into points that can be spent to buy profile items) just makes it a thousand times worse. You get ‘paid’ to be a troll on Steam. It’s insanity.
The only anti-troll weapon that works or is needed is oblivion. Let their steaming turd of a post curdle in solitude. Don’t even downvote it. Being downvoted is a victory for them, an acknowledgement that they exist and that they’ve gotten your attention and that they’ve annoyed you. Shadowban them from your mind. Block them so that no future posts of theirs will infect your screen. Report them so mods can remove/ban them. Just don’t engage directly with the post or the user. Don’t say “blocked and reported” in the troll’s thread/post. Just do it silently.
Ive blocked so many award baiters on steam, when an update for one of the bigger games comes out the first few comment pages are filled with "you’ve blocked this user. If you’ve blocked enough of them the comments get usable again.
When reading a long text, disconnect from the internet as soon as it has loaded so you don’t pay for the time you spend reading.
I remember doing that to read and write my answers in forums. Then someone had already posted the same comment or a better version.