• DirigibleProtein@aussie.zone
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    1 month ago

    Incurable cancer, chemo brain means I can’t concentrate and often have trouble thinking straight. Involuntarily “retired” on medical insurance. Not working wasn’t what I expected it to be.

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    My wife and I have pensions plans. We won’t retire for another 35 or 40 years but that’s the plan.

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      That’s awesome, it seems really far away, but trust me, it goes by quick. I’m 55 and I retire in a few months. And I rememeber thinking it seemed so far away. And fuck, now I’m here. Crazy.

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        1 month ago

        Wow, how are you retiring at 55??? I’m 56, and have spent this year re-vamping my IRA accounts with the hope of retiring in 10-12 years without any reliance on the social security that will be gone.

        [Edit] I see below you mentioned having a pension. Must be nice!

        • Universal Monk@lemm.ee
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          My pension plan is for state workers. So we can retire at 55 if we have at least 20 years service in. I turned 55 this year, and hit my 20th year this year.

          Of course, the longer I keep working, the bigger my pension would be. I took my current job with the plan to work for 3 more years, then retire.

          And I like my current job enough, but every single morning after I turned 55, when I wake up, I think to myself, “Shit if I were retired, I wouldn’t have to go anywhere.”

          My job is a 10-minute walk away. So I really have no right to bitch about it at all. But just “having” to be somewhere, gets on my nerves so much now! lol

          So since I don’t owe anybody shit, and I can live off of potatoes and beans, I’ll get by just fine. I don’t give a shit what people think of me, so no keeping up appearances. That right there, makes my lifestyle sustainable on low income.

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          As long as Trump doesn’t decide to suddenly end pension plans! I mean, i don’t really think that could happen, but he’s so batshit crazy, who knows. So I figure I should take the jump now and maybe any law changes that would happen would go towards people who aren’t collecting the pension yet.

  • PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca
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    My workplace has a defined benefit pension and they announced that all employees will be losing this pension (even those who are a couple years from retirement).

    We will be switched over to a defined contribution pension and our previous contributions will be converted retroactively.

    I don’t foresee this new pension lasting more than 5 years before they cut it completely. I wouldn’t even be surprised if they’re able to keep our pension contributions retroactively, fucking everyone over.

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        1 month ago

        In the industry I work in, they can legally do anything to you because our work exists outside of the Canadian Labour Code. This includes give you $0 paycheques for months and expect you to keep doing your job until it’s fixed, which can take 3 months to a year.

  • Jourei@lemm.ee
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    I’m barely into my 30’s so it’s far too early to say what I’ll be doing. I aim to be debt free within 10 years and have no major life goals after that. Another 10 years and pension should cover my living costs 1:1, so monetarily I should be fine.

  • grasshopper_mouse@lemmy.world
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    Nope, never. My retirement plan is a ditch with a nice view of the Rockies in Colorado and a bottle of gin on a cold winter night. Everything I’ve saved into (SS, TSP, retirement accounts) will inevitably disappear before I can access them/hit the age requirements. I don’t trust the system at all (I didn’t trust it before the election outcome either). I’m fucked. We’re all fucked. Might as well live it up now while I still can.

  • Chainweasel@lemmy.world
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    I’m lucky enough to be a state employee so I’ll still have OPERS when Social Security is annihilated next year, but I’m not sure that’ll be enough.

  • TheRealKuni@lemmy.world
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    Yep. My wife and I are in our thirties and have good whole life insurance policies that will supplement our retirement accounts nicely in our old age. I’ve been paying into mine for almost two decades (maybe longer, my parents started it for me and locked in good rates when I was young), my wife’s is newer. We also both have matching retirement accounts and are making sure we hit our matching totals each paycheck to draw as much from our employers as we can.

    It’s not ideal, but with good planning (and stable income) you can still do well. Now, stable income is the important part. I’m a software developer, my wife works for a non-profit, so my income is generally a bit more stable than hers.

    I recommend finding a financial advisor. Our life insurance guy is great and because he gets commission on the life insurance plans he doesn’t charge us for advisory services (and also doesn’t try to sell us on other stuff, he actually recommended we NOT move our old 401ks from other jobs over to him because we’d end up paying him more than we’d make, he recommended we roll them into our current employer plans).

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      That advice seems like a red flag. There are way more options to diversify investments in an IRA than a 401k, you can also invest in the same funds through an IRA that are available to your 401k. Either way you end up paying fees to someone as well.

  • Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works
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    Yep, about to turn thirty and have been paying into an Ira, a Roth Ira and a 401k, I want to retire as soon a possible and do things that actually make me happy.

  • Dyskolos@lemmy.zip
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    I already did somewhere in my 20s like 3 decades ago.

    But today, with maybe “just” one good academic salary, the minimum rent, no car and saving nost of everything? Difficult. Especially if you maybe wanna live while waiting for retirement. Maybe even have a car or travel.

    And if you want a great retirement, you need Hobbies and hobbies cost money. Considering that mayve the government-paid retirement is probably gone or reeeeaaally bad in another 30yrs…you gotta save a looooot AND invest it furiously but safely. Which is work too.

    World is fucked.

  • nickwitha_k (he/him)@lemmy.sdf.org
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    I intend to. I refuse to die in old age, wasting my life working to support shareholders. Have a good few decades left to even be close to that though and I hate it.

  • josefo@leminal.space
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    I enjoy working in my field, but as other commenter said, I have no interest on working until death for shareholders to be happy. I do plan to work until I’m dead, incapable or just tired, but I’m planning to enjoy it while it lasts.

    Independence for me would be not having to respond to a higher up, just me, my craft, and peaceful money earned by not overstressing my ass. I’m building my own house now, after I have a place to live without rent, I have no more ambitions than eating, sleeping and be with my loved ones. I don’t need to overwork my ass to death to get that. Maybe 4 hours a day, or two-three days a week should be enough.

    I think most people would do the same if they could, most people like working, they just despise the oppression of this rigged system.

  • drexy_rexy@programming.dev
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    I started maxing my Roth Ira out when I was earning $10/hr. Avoid spending money on things that don’t literally matter and save for the things that do. Pay attention to where every single dollar/pound/Euro/shekel goes. Stay out of debt. Keep drug/alcohol use reasonable. Most of the time folks who are concerned about retiring/money have no idea how much they spend on what. Saving for retirement is easy once you start doing it and get used to it, but you need to start early and you need to invest in the stock market. Avoiding chronic illness or accidents or long periods where you aren’t earning income are probably necessary too. Staying out of legal trouble is probably necessary as well.

    • Epzillon@lemmy.ml
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      Yes, as a Swede I’d say we have way greater chances of reaching retirement, but it still comes down to saving by yourself if you want to live reasonably while retired.

      I set myself a “spending budget” every month. After salary comes in i move what goes to bills and such expenses into a separate account. I divide whats left into 50/50, one half into savings the other to leisure. My savings account is set up to make long term investment into stock groups managed by the bank (unsure if there’s an english word for this, we håll them “fonder”). Usually i dont spend all the leisure money either way because i rarely purchase things and whats left when next months salary comes around also goes into savings.

      I’ve been blessed by my parentes to start off with some savings so saving by myself once i started working was also allt easier.

      To properly secure your future you need to earn enough money to even be able to start saving. Truly a “society” moment.