“Well would you look at that. Somebody threw away a perfectly good white boy.”
I want my two Dollars!
Trust me, guys, this kid’s got the juice!
Where’s everyone thinks the rest of the younglings came from?
They take them as infants.
Government sanctioned. You know. For the greater good.
The real reason the Jedi rarely take strays that can talk in; is because the mind of a toddler is easily molded through the force.
Yup.
The greater good.
SHUT IT!
Nope. If we follow the lore as intended, the order switched to toddlers after a bloody civil war left a dude in charge that decided attachments are the source of all evil and training in the force should begin before any form of attachment is allowed to take root.
That’s just, like, propaganda.
I mean. Think about it. The Force’s very nuture is connecting all living things, right? The Force is attachment.
“Attachment” is not the same as connection. The concept the Jedi are talking about is the Buddhist idea of attachment. It’s possessiveness, codependency, fear of loss. One cannot be fully connected to anything they’re attached to.
You’ve been misled by the Sith propaganda my friend.
Yea this always seemed like a major plot hole to me. How are the Jedi good if their entire ethos is about isolating yourself from everyone and everything you’ve ever loved or had a connection to?
Read about Buddhism, it’s basically that.
And it’s very possessive. Yandere type.
Just another day with Qui-Gon. Where do you think Larry learned it from?
And if they had just brought the kid’s mother, or gone back for her and the other slaves, he never would have had to go rescue her and kill all those sand people, leading to his fall.
Since the Jedi had fucked up “codes” to live by, I never would have expected them to rescue the mom.
Queen Amidala, however…
How fucked up is it that she was taken in by Anakin’s mother, who (as a god damn slave) fed her, gave her a place to stay, allowed her son to risk his life in a pod race, and ultimately gave her only son up willingly to go with her and the two Jedi, not really knowing what would happen but just trusting he’d be safe—but then, that same kid who gets attacked on the way to the ship just leaving Tattooine, ends up flying a fighter craft and destroying the droid control ship which saves Amidala’s entire planet and people. The fact the kid survived any of that is a miracle, but he clearly misses his mother. A fact Amidala was blatantly aware of.
The fact that Amidala, who had nearly infinite resources at her disposal, owed her life and every life she was responsible for in Naboo to Anakin, and was clearly aware of pretty much the only thing Anakin wanted in the entire universe—his god damn mother—and yet Amidala didn’t do jack fucking shit to drop a few coins on Watto and free Shmi.
I never would have expected the Jedi to free her, but Amidala? What a fucking piece of work…
Yeah, but mother-in-law.
Ah, that had me laughing:D
“oh god I hope that little slave boy blows me out”
First time you’ve come across an SW plot hole?
There are just so many wtf did George do this questions where the only answer is “so the movie can happen.” It’s lazy writing which most people overlook bc the movies are fun spectacles.
Overall the movies are made to sell billions of dollars worth of toys and lunch boxes to a new generation, so they’re not particularly worried about writing high quality plot lines.
He would still have been attached to her and in the film’s logic, that was the problem. You can bet that there would have been a point where he would have been afraid for her leading to yadda yadda.
I always found that strange… The jedi were supposed to be the “good guys,” yet their entire thing was “you are not allowed to love or care about anyone or anything ever again.”
Seems kind of fucked up.
I think it’s to prevent you from being coerced to do something you shouldn’t by threats to loved ones. If you are unattached you can’t be blackmailed.
Ya should check out The Unifying Force Theory, basically says the Force has no inherent light or dark side, that it’s indifferent. The Force, through individual’s actions dictate whether they are light or dark, and within ourselves is the capacity for both. It’s kinda what the Sequel Trilogy was trying to go for with Kylo and Rey, albeit executed very poorly.
Funny enough, probably the most famous practitioner of this belief was Qui-Gon Jinn. It’s also why he never was elevated over the rank of Knight. He was considered unorthodox and a bit of a rebel by most Jedi then, who followed the more commonly held belief of The Living Force Theory.
I had heard the dark side was a twisted corruption of the force and sort of like a cancer
That’s why Revan rejected both, declared they were both extremists, started The Grey Jedi, and became enemy #1 of both The Jedi and The Sith.
The views of the Jedi were written from one interpretation of Buddhism’s views on attachment, in that attachments inevitably lead to suffering. Though that’s probably more a mistranslation and I think it’s more “dependence” instead of attachment: it’s ok to have relationships and to love and care about other people, it’s just when your happiness or well-being is dependent on others or on some thing that suffering is the result. Though that’s just one view, and there are of course many, many interpretations.
The idea also exist in Catholicism that you can’t fully devote yourself to the way if you have too much attachment, hence monks and nuns isolating themselves and priests not allowed to marry.
It’s supposed to be the same concept that Buddhist monks follow, or any monks for that matter. Desire leads to temptation, and temptation leads to corruption, so they swear off all worldly comforts and attachments.
Right, but I don’t see that as being inherently “good,” or “evil.” Whereas the Jedi are very explicitly the “good guys” in a universe that does not leave much room for grey.
Lying, deception, and selfishness are tools of the Sith, which are universally considered evil.
Why isn’t Qui-Gon in the picture?
And the negations failed. And the blockade already in place. And way too late. And the princess almost killed. And a sith encounter.
This has to be one of the worst diplomatic missions ever :D
But you have heard of me. Wait, shit, fucked it up
Fuck you for putting the concept of a Jack Sparrow Jedi in my head
Edit:because it’s amazing and now I want it, but it will never occur
That would be Space Pirate Hondo Onaka
“The Jedi feel it’s unnatural, savvy?”
“Worst diplomatic mission so far!”
Based qui gon using the force to bet on the races lmao
Slave kid…not so much…but this kid is so legit broda you won’t believe it when you meet him. Biggest midochlorians I’ve ever seen
Obi was getting a bit to old for priest Qui-Gon.
