Just use Vim!
(This user was taken out back and shot)
I do all my edits using sed inserts, like a real dev.
Just use
edlike the gods intendedWhat about Edd and Eddy?
I use butterflies
Can someone tell me if I’m just stupid and doing something wrong ?
Neovim with Python lsp works 90000% better than any Python extension on vscode for me. I don’t hate vscode and I occasionally use it but it kind of sucks for python ? Does anyone have any kind of info that could help, what extensions are you using ?
vscode isn’t an ide either. one of the big problems i’ve seen with its python lsp server is that it doesn’t work if the project structure is “wrong”, which means that usability is limited.
No. Unless there’s a bad update… Every few years.
Found the IntelliJ (or friends) user.
Actually Clion is prone to eating all your RAM randomly. It’s Java after all.
Java can only eat RAM up to a limit. So while it is memory hungry, it won’t be randomly “eating all your RAM”. Rather, more predictably it’ll eat a lot more of your RAM than you’d like.
programmer vegeta is having a bad time
Are you even a real programmer if you haven’t fixed a prod critical but in notepad++ because your ide won’t open for whatever reason?
I once fixed an important bug by force-pushing on the master branch (I was an admin too and could do it). I had 5 minutes to fix it, and no one was aware of it. I didn’t ask for permission but I was sweating a lot.
I’ve lost track of the number of Report Builder files I’ve had to update via Notepad++ - the intended editor has so many weird kinks and corner cases it’s often easier to just edit the file directly!
I’ve done critical fixes (usually config) direct on a prod server with vim over ssh before now. Not the best way to do it but sometimes waiting for CI will just take too long…
Old school “CI/CD” was an FTP server where you dropped DLLs into I remember
Intellij is sometimes like that, e.g. I hate not being able to change my gradle cache folder globally, instead of per project
Sometimes it stops showing the ui and just runs in the background
Sometimes it fails to git pull and the rollback menu is broken
Sometimes the hot reload bugs out and it recompiles 1000+ classes
But i still love it
Unreal Engine certainly is.
Crys in Vivado
vim evangelists incoming although they are on panel 3
“clicks”? Where we’re going we don’t need… “clicks”!
Well, my autocompletes works fine but I thinks it’s a lot thanks to vscode, which seems to have pushed LSP.
One doesn’t know how to code if they cannot spell the whole word.
(Turn off autocomplete for a day and test your actual knowledge.)
Nah thanks, I want to program by solving logic problems, not syntax problems.
Bold of you to assume I even use auto complete!
Maybe old IDEs. Like Eclipse 10-20 years ago.
Modern IDEs don’t really have these issues as frequently.
Visual Studio has these issues daily.
Ten years ago VS was awesome. In the last 2 years, all they added is AI crap and every other feature got more buggy.
Your experience is far from universal. Working with actual code files, visual studio works very good.
Mix in XAML blazor, however…
(Note that both file formats are abstractions from which C# classes are.generated…)
Have you tried modern Eclipse on Wayland? Save often!
I have not. Last time I used Eclipse (maybe 10 years ago) I got so frustrated it prompted me to learn Vim.
I’m currently mostly using IntelliJ these days.
The only issue I’ve ever had with Eclipse is updating it. It’s only gotten better in the past 2 years or so. The rest of the time upgrading was a complete pain in the ass. Just about every time I ended up giving up and reinstalling from scratch.
Well, the one other thing that annoys me is not having decent themeing. I use a third party extension and while it does help, there are parts of the IDE that you still can’t customize so if you want a dark mode you have to deal with parta that aren’t ideal.
Oh I don’t know. 1,3,5 and 6 resonate strongly with me for Visual Studio 2022. The only reason 4 doesn’t is because instead of looking for a setting I DDG “how do I do X in VS2022”
I have a faint memory of working with Eclipse but shelved it due to making Java even slower than my dog walking towards his shower. Is it still alive and viable?
Install the right plugin and IntelliJ will act like Eclipse ten years ago. Bonus points for the plugin being a mandatory part of your company’s work flow with no alternatives other than a command line nobody can help you with.
modern IDEs are dog shit. If I needed a glorified clippy telling me how to do my job I’d smash my brains out all over my keyboard.
Give me an editor with the following and I’ll be good for life.
- syntax highlighting/error flagging
- project scoping
- script injection
- ftp/scp
nice to have:
- db viewer (SQL/sqlite)
- json viewer
- diff
- git/vcs
if an editor can do all that I can make it do whatever I need.
I had similar opinion, but I’ve changed my mind. Now I can barely do any serious work without an IDE.
The main feature I’m after is code completion. Just getting a peek of which methods are available is something I can’t be without.
Code hints like ”this expression will always evaluate to false” is great to capture difficult to spot mistakes.
Code usage it’s is a must when doing refactors. It makes it easy to analyze how a method is used before I commit to a refactor.
Debugger and profiler is also nice to have.
I’d say that’s true for most devs.
personally though, all that is noise to me and is difficult to maintain focus when it’s got all these popups and autofills.
I’m currently maintaining a codebase that’s got something like 900 methods/functions across multiple classes, modules, and other objects. It follows a pattern and is pretty easy to maintain though.
another project I’m inheriting is doesn’t have any logical flow or pattern and is a shitstorm of JS Christmas trees. I’ll likely need to used something that will trace through the callbacks just to see what the fuck is going on.
my point though, is if you depend on the tools that make it easy to write sloppy code, you will write sloppy code because the key feature of the tool allows you to do it without repercussions.
building something without effort rarely ends with a result you can be proud of. this is true for development and in life, IMO.
“A shitstorm of JS Christmas trees” what poetry. Thank you.
No, they are not a flat rectagle creature with arms and legs.
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IDE - The precursor to SATA? I don’t get it…
I never knew it used to be a storage standard. Turns out it was renamed to PATA at some point.
As someone else said, IDE refers to development software like Visual Studio, Eclipse, and others. Nowadays a lot of text editors (VS Code/ium, Sublime Text, and many others) come with enough features to pass as an IDE too, but some people still somehow differentiate between them.
From my limited knowledge (just started learning python) an IDE (integrated developing environment) is a program where you can do multiple things in one place while writing a program like coding, debugging or even running your application
Except for buried settings, only Visual Studio is like this.
I hate how IDEs with error checking check the code at every character. Like my dude, we got this shit right with text editors having spell check back in 1997. Wait just a moment before checking please. All the time when I’m typing the editor freaks the fuck out, this is wrong, this is wrong, here is an error, wtf is this supposed to mean? And then when I type the ) or whatever, all is well. Just give me a freaking second to work and think.
I’d say it’s probably happening because the syntax parser runs every character to be able to provide auto complete, and error tracking is a part of that system. I wonder if there’s a plugin that introduces some smart delay between when the error is detected and when it’s displayed.
You can thank search engines on mobile for that, pure idiocy
I know you joke but topheavy IDEs are discouraging new coders at an alarming rate
More than the complete collapse of the programming profession is discouraging new coders?
