My dream is to die with absolutely nothing but massive bank debt. I have no living relatives, so there is no one to get the money from. I mean, “Hello Mr. Twat you have terminal cancer” next stop is the bank to take out the biggest loan my excellent credit will let me get. Tom Selleck the house go to Vegas bet it all on black until it’s gone return home and burn the house down around me fuck the bank…a boy can dream lol
Legally give a homeless person ownership of the house
That’s a better, less petty idea but the bank would just take it from them.
I’d totally do this if I had no family
Having a family is a solvable problem.
I mean I could get rid of them I suppose, but others put up with worse.
You never see these meme quality ads with a € or £ price… its always $
That’s because America is Ferenginar.
Quark: I think I figured out why Humans don’t like Ferengi.
Sisko: Not now, Quark.
Quark: The way I see it, Humans used to be a lot like Ferengi: greedy, acquisitive, interested only in profit. We’re a constant reminder of a part of your past you’d like to forget.
Sisko: Quark, we don’t have time for this.
Quark: You’re overlooking something. Humans used to be a lot worse than the Ferengi: slavery, concentration camps, interstellar wars. We have nothing in our past that approaches that kind of barbarism. You see? We’re nothing like you… we’re better.
DS9, The Jem’Hadar (1994)
it’s* always $
Those targeted ads aren’t messing around
Edit: Personally I’ve already got an urn picked out for me. A probably too large coffee can of my favorite coffee brand.
I’d prefer it not get used for my ashes for at least a few more decades though.
Is there a Ralphs nearby?
Come on, man. Fuck it. Let’s go bowling.
Graveyards are a waste of space & good land. Land is for the living. Cremation is the way; it is clean, responsible, & considerate.
. I’d rather be harvested for any useful organs if I have any left healthy enough to save someone, then the rest of me thrown in some kind of corpse compost or bio reactor or something.
Yes, but the whole thing isn’t about you but about the people you leave behind. It helps me a lot that I can visit the place where I buried my father’s ashes and tell him about what is going on and how live is currently. I miss him a lot.
For every person like you there may be a person like me that couldn’t care less to visit a grave. I can remember my fallen ones from anywhere.
Don’t want to sound callous but if you’re dead you’re dead to me too, like it’s a part of life. Just accept it and move on. I’m gonna die one day whoop whoop.
Maybe as a compromise, then, the people who care can do the thing and the people who don’t don’t have to?
Sure, but if the argument is that graveyards take to much valuable space that could be used to house living humans.
Perhaps people should keep ashes in their own gardens etc and you can alsways go and do the things you do.
To be transparent, this isn’t something I have given a lot of thought to until I saw this thread.
Suppose so, I feel like they’re pretty low on the list of land we could reclaim tho. Would rather go after golf courses first for example
Oh I agree that golf courses would be a priority. The same for office blocks where people can work from home.
I’m with mark twain on golf, it’s a good walk spoiled 😂
Something I think I’ve seen in movies (mostly ones implied to be ancient japan) is a family grave. A single pillar driven into the ground with the family name and then everyone is cremated or something. Notable individuals for the family get a pillar next to it, but this could be a solution as first world countries reach the point where space is a premium. This allows families to mourn recently, and not-so-recently deceased.
Cyberpunk has the Columbariums - huge columns of thousands of cremated individuals, with a digital display for your Epitaph and name
That sounds like a possible solution and pretty cool too tbh.
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The uk had 3500 cemeteries in 1914 and more have been built since. A a report in 2013 said that nearly half would be out of space by 2033.
I wouldn’t like to say how much land this accounts for but just in my small town you could build hundreds of houses or even more apartments on all the land.
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There are composting options now I think.
Yes, it’s also called Natural Organic Reduction or terramation. This would be my dream.
When I die compost my body and use the compost on a tree in the garden or spread it in a natural reserve. This way if my relative want to visit my grave they go in nature rather than going in a gray cemetery full of concrete.
If you don’t have any useful organs, I imagine you can still be used as a cadaver for medical students.
I’d like my ashes to go into a firework and be spread out all over my local area. Go out with a bang!
Clean? I would have said burial was more environmentally friendly.
If they didn’t pump the bodies full of toxic chemicals and store them indefinitely in a piece of furniture, maybe.
Good points.
I will specify organs donated and Eco friendly coffin without embalming.
I’m leaning towards one of those fungus suits, hopefully with a mango tree planted atop.
I don’t care what happens to my corpse, because I’ll be dead then. Never understood, why people still care nowadays, religion I guess.
Ritual and ceremony are deeply important aspects of the human experience. What cultures do with their dead is way, way up there with foodways and adornment when it comes to cultural significance.
The increasingly common view in the West that elaborate death rites are unimportant is really new when compared to the rest of human history. It’s probably a postmodern thing? If I’m right about that, that would mean the less reverential attitude towards traditional deatg ceremony is like 110ish years old.
Compared to the 200,000-300,000 years Homo Sapiens have been around (or 45,000 years ago if we only want to discuss the length of time that Northern European-style deathways have most likely been practiced), 100 years isn’t a lot to change that cultural inertia.
Sorry, I know this is a Wendy’s. Just a frosty, thanks.
You can have the ceremony without being ripped off for thousands of dollars on a box nobody will ever see again
Why the fuck have you been downvoted, that’s just a reasonable comment.
May I also point out, your funeral isn’t for you. You might not care what happens to your body but your close ones do. A funeral is a place for them to find closure, to grief and mourn your loss. The mere fact that people who cannot retrieve their lost one’s body feel awfully about it and still tend to create empty graves should show how much this is a very old desire of importance. The way we perform these death rituals can change and maybe it is not about how a body is being get rid off per se, and surely we could change this. That we as a species are aware of what death means and have found ways to cope with it (i.e. rituals as a coping way to deal with the knowledge) is incredible.
Whenever people say something along these lines of “just throw me in the trash” it feels to me like they didn’t get that point. It’s not about you. It’s about everyone else.
Hey there! FYI I really appreciated this comment. The response to my comment here convinced me that Lemmy isn’t really the place for me. I popped back today to look something up, and I wanted to make sure you got a friendly hello after seeing your response.
I totally agree with everything you said. Having shared practices for remembrance and an established “typical” way to demonstrate care for deceased people is a significant part of maintaining social cohesion and so useful for giving individuals an outlet for grief.
The way an entire industry has emerged to capitalize on loss and paij sickens me, but that part is a whole different conversation.
My education is in archaeoligy, and my primary interest was American deathways. I’ve probably spent more time thinking about contemporary death rites and remembrance than I’ve thought about anything else as an adult.
Anyway, I hope you’re well! Keep on being a cool person.
This was such a nice reply, thank you, it really made my day (probably even two days). How sad that lemmy lost you, but I think I get it. It’s not 100% my vibe either. Maybe one day it will change in a way that makes you want to try it out again. I’m probably typing this into a void but just in case you pop in again you, as well, deserve a friendly hello.
And I really hope you pop back in because frankly, having an archeologist who specialized in deathways is super interesting. I imagine you have so many things to tell. How are American deathways different from other cultures? What stands out? How did Native Americans influence the settling Europeans, and vice versa? Was there any influence to begin with? How did it change over time? What is the most heartfelt detail about how the dead were/are handled that might be special to that culture, in your opinion? What is the most grotesque aspect? How has your studies influenced how you view death itself, and how has it influenced your view on funerals? What would you do if you emigrated into a vastly different culture (in regards to last wishes etc)? What are the most common misconceptions, fun facts, and what touched you the most? And why exactly did you end up specializing in such a field anyway?
I realize I’m probably asking these questions into a void, but man, should you ever be back here - let me know how I can read up on your work, ok?
You remind me of a PhD candidate I met when working for theater and he was writing his thesis on Russian folklore fairy tales, and told me that he noticed a pattern of a circular repetition of themes in each story. I wish I remembered his name and were able to look up what he published, but I don’t, and it saddens me that I missed out on such an interesting topic that I would have wanted to know more about. It seems like I will miss out once more. (Hey, is that a circular repeat?)
When I’m dead just throw me in the trash
Casket+ includes a lid! Only $59.99/hour (surge pricing if used between hours of 10pm and 8am)
Don’t you love your dead relatives? Or are you cheap?
Cremation. Tubes for ashes. Instructions to friends and family where to toss me and maybe plant a tree.
I want my remains spread at the happiest place on Earth, Disneyland.
Also, I don’t want to be cremated.
The final yeeeeeeet
Paying for it after you need it seems like a bad business plan tbh.
Sky burial. Just chop me up and feed me to the vultures
Sky burial. Throw me out of an airplane.
Sky burial. Throw me in a wood chipper.
We probably gonna wait till you’re dead but fine
Reddit is desperate for ads.
Just take that $22 per month and invest it instead. You’d come out on top
What can you invest with $22 per month (or $264 per year) that’s actually turned a noticable profit? Even at 10% return you’d be looking at $26.4 gain per year.
That is essentially what this company is doing. They are investing your money until you die
Its a payment plan to buy to casket. You $20 a month for $60 months.
Death will be a subscription
It is, Grave plots are temporary.
My grandpa handmade his coffin with some really nice walnut. Quilted the inside I believe. He’s still kicking, so it gets used as a prop at Halloween
Better buy one now before they’re subscription only.
