Litteraly who is saying they wont vote for biden? These were the reluctant voters last time and they will be again.
Wut?
Someone is lost!
I thought it was pretty well established that Pythagoras didn’t invent it, he was just the leader of a Math and Murder cult so he stole it
“Math and Murder Cult” sounds metal as hell. I’d join.
math murder cult = my new band
Send me a demo. Or hell I’ll play bass
Simmer down Hulk Hogan.
Right on brotha
I feel like at this point I’ve seen this story in 1,000 year old reposts.
I bet Pythagoras had substandard copper too
Pythagoras has superior copper. All other thagoras has inferior copper.
Cool but is there a better source on this than “I fucking love science”?
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1057/jt.2009.16
This paper was sourced in the article
Wikipedia, Springer is even worse, the company of tabloid press.
“Springer Science” (scientific journals and books) is not to be confused with “Axel Springer” (Bild, Welt, politico).
But is from the same group, like Nestle in food.
No, one is Axel Springer (tabloid shit), the other is Julius Springer (science stuff, founded around 100 years before the other Springer), they’re not related.
No? As far as I can see they have no connection.
people joined a cult because of this theorem. that must be awkward
This is one of the reasons why we shouldn’t name things after people.
This, and the fact that most stuff is invented by teams and not individuals. I think our tendency to name after a single person helps keep the hero/savior/Messiah complex of western society alive, and blinds us to the power of community and cooperation. It’s like “individual-washing” the past.
What I would like to know is if tablets like this are being scanned digitally into three dimensions so that they can be reproduced. I feel like everything we find from antiquity needs to be scanned this way. With humans constantly going to war destroying history, I’d hate the idea of losing things like this forever.
There’s also the https://cdli.mpiwg-berlin.mpg.de/about Obviously, losing a dimension isn’t great but still pretty cool
Didn’t all kinds of antiquities get destroyed in Iraq? Totally irreplaceable stuff.
As you alluded, probably common in many places. How sad.
Oh man.
It’s only recently that the idea of “archaeology” has been a thing. Before then there were only “antiquarians” which were just looters.
Often they had royal backers. There’s a podcast series called “stuff the British stole”
There’s pretty well documented instances in the 1800s in Egypt, and pompeii.
Honestly the amount of amazing stuff that has just been “collected” is just eye watering.
A lot was destroyed but a lot of it was looted and and sold to sleazy collectors. Remember when the guy who owns Hobby Lobby got caught buying looted artifacts?
Still horrible, obviously, but at least there’s some hope looted items will be recovered.
I wonder how many artifacts could be recovered if we could search all the rich people mansions…
Most recently I remember it happening really really badly within Syria. Very intentional destruction. But yes, it happens all the time–Iraq included. With the technology we have now, we can preserve a lot of it (digitally at least).
I hate how it’s so damn hard to find these things and yet so easy to destroy it.
Yea ISIS and other extremist groups like to destroy evidence of their ancestor’s greatness for some reason.
Lesser sons of lesser sons
I recall there was at least one location which was 3D scanned and photographed in detail before ISIS destroyed it, so at least not all of it is lost.
https://apnews.com/general-news-travel-arts-and-entertainment-dbca5e23519f44c4a881c9cd69f41cd6
I knew Pythagoras was smart but I never knew he invented time travel. So cool!
And he invented plagiarism too!
nah he probably stole that as well.
Poor poor Plagiar, everything he invented people stole and took credit for.
The Plagiarian theorem is a real bummer.
I took the opposite tack.
You ain’t shit, Pythagoras! You just wrote it down, you didn’t figure it out, you absolute fucking fraud. We’re taking your immortality back!
Quick! Change all the textbooks to “clay tablet theorem”!
Why not call it the Summerian Theorem ? Or Arabic/Persian/Philistine Triangulation Theorem ?
People used to live longer back then, just look at the bible.
It always seemed weird to me that it would be formally developed so late. Like I’ve taken multiple trigonometry courses and can’t even define trigonometry let alone make sense of most of it, but the Pythagorean theorem is a purely intuitive thing everyone does regularly. The first person to take a diagonal shortcut while walking understood it. It should have been the first thing mathematics codified after basic arithmetic.
the Pythagorean theorem is a purely intuitive thing everyone does regularly.
Excuse me, what?
I take it you haven’t read Plato?
It is if you needed to collect taxes and wanted a way to measure 📐
The first person to take a diagonal shortcut while walking understood it.
Taking a diagonal shortcut means that you understand
a + b > c. That’s a far leap from being able to prove thata^2 + b^2 = c^2.
There is lots of evidence of the Pythagorean theorem before Pythagoras. The attribution of the rule to him comes centuries after he lived. So likely he worked on codifying and proving the relationship using the Greek deductive and axiomatic system.
I imagine it’s been developed and lost periodically, and some people are averse to irrational numbers. Greece just had continual credit in our intellectual pedigree (as opposed to, say, the Babylonians who had more advanced trig than the Greeks before them and the Greeks were aware of them in some ways).
I think you also need a lot of rectangles and squares to find it necessary. I imagine buildings, but even today a lot of materials are cut to fit (also, the building I am in is not rectangular along any dimension). Maybe legal rectangular plots of land? Idk
And garden of eden as well as the story with a baby in a basket in Nil, are already in Atrahasis epos, from which Gilgamesh epos copied btw.
another nail in whitey’s coffin. when will this woke history end
Pythagoras wasn’t white. 😎
I don’t know, this painting of him looks pretty white (please ignore that it was made in the 1920s by an American who had probably never been to Greece)
and another nail in whitey’s coffin. when will this woke history end
Cuneiform scripts were frequently coppied by scribes, so the theorem could be even older
I think that this theorem is at least as old as the pyramids.
The recent “Fall of Civilizations” podcast talks a lot about the history of the pyramids. They may still have known a lot about geometery, but the slopes and angles involved in the pyramid building seem to have been trial and error as much as anything
The pyraamids are way more complex and accurate as been build only by trial and error. It’s architects knew exactly what they were doing and also geometric theorema way more complex as the one of “Phytagoras”, as shown also in other ancient buildings, which are still difficult to reproduce by modern architects.
What makes you say that? I’m not an expert. Accurate geometry or not, the pyramids are pretty cool. What about them means it couldn’t have been trial and error?
https://www.si.edu/spotlight/ancient-egypt/pyramid
About halfway up, however, the angle of incline decreases from over 51 degrees to about 43 degrees, and the sides rise less steeply, causing it to be known as the Bent Pyramid. The change in angle was probably made during construction to give the building more stability
Yes, the bent pyramid, but that say nothing, maybe simply a design of an bad architect. They always exist, even today.
A few days ago I was building a Lego set and had to go back 10 steps because of a mistake and that made me very angry.
A handful of people can be credited with discovering the theorem prior to Pythagoras, this isn’t the first time this has come up, and incidentally there is almost no evidence to suggest Pythagoras did.
Good to know! TBH, I’m specifically excited to see it was present in the fertile crescent. I really like clay tablets.
Quite possible. Ancient Greeks really liked Akkadians.
Quite possible.
I’m not sure I understand this statement? Isn’t that what the article says?
Oh, right.
