For me : Trippie Redd’s “!” Is actually a great album
“the Beatles are overrated” is a poorly defined statement often made by people who give the impression they want to be seen as an iconoclast of some sort.
Ok. Overrated on what metrics? Historical impact? Popularity at the time? Popularity now?
“I don’t like the Beatles’ music” is probably closer to what people mean, and that’s fine. I rarely listen to them on purpose. But the whole “I don’t like them, and neither should you” thing is kind of insufferable.
When I say they’re overrated, I mean I don’t understand why they’re so popular. They’re not bad but they’re not that good, either. I don’t understand the praise lauded on them. It’s too much relative to their quality.
I can understand if someone loves them in their time. For example, Nirvana was absolutely amazing in their time. However, it’s been 30 years and that sound is a lot more mainstream, but in their day, they were breaking new ground.
But my kids age? Why do people think they’re that good?
TBH people listened to these Beatles high on acid. And somehow the radio stations where persuaded to play their songs more frequent.
Perfect recipe for verse rush
I generally assume that “popular thing is overrated” is generally said just to troll people. At least, I like to dog on things that are popular that I’m not in to just to get a raise out of people that can’t accept any criticism of their thing.
Lyrics ruin most music. This is one is weird because I actually love the sound of the human voice, but it most music its just ugly. Also most of the lyrics themselves suck. Usually vague, meaningless, hoping you’ll interpret them as something deep. There’s just so many songs that most lyrics have to be bad.
Also drums ruin most music. They are harsh, dissonant, overly loud, overpower subtler instruments, and reduce complex, varying melodies to a simple beat. Even when I want simple heavy beats, I prefer electronic alternatives (no idea what they’re called) so it’s not so harsh
Phil Collins’s solo work is mind-numbingly, eye-bleedingly, toe-curlingly boring and awful.
Trent Reznor’s original version of Hurt is better than Johnny Cash’s version, which is terrible. I strongly dislike him bringing in the religious aspect by changing the lyrics and I just plain don’t like his voice.
Yeah, I said it.
The Kinks are better than The Beatles
When someone dies or leaves the band, you have a new band and should give it a new name.
“A three-legged dog is still a dog. It just has to learn to run differently.” - Michael Stipe
But when every leg is replaced? When head is replaced too? When torso is broken and remodeled? Is it still that dog or something different?
I’m ok with band switching members, but there should be a limit…
Meanwhile, the ship of Theseus…
I had to google whether this is some idiom unknown to me, or if you’re mocking me, or what it really is. I’m no philosopher, but at one point it’s not the same ship for me.
Oh, not mocking you. It’s just a semi famous Greek thing about when changing the parts of a thing changes the thing. It’s hard to draw clear lines about it.
Especially in the case where you take the parts off the original ship one at a time and replace them, while reassembling them somewhere else. Now you have two ships and it’s unclear which is the “original”
It applies somewhat well to a band changing members, but I guess if your band is only like 3 people it’s less fuzzy. A symphony of 100 people that changes one member every year, though, would be harder to call.
For anyone else who doesn’t know: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus
Yeah. I was thinking like the usual 4 piece rock band. You switch one member and it’s ok. Let’s say next year one member dies, so he’s replaced. Still ok. But when there’s ultimately nobody from the original lineup, it’s just not the same band for me. On paper it is, but for me it’s just milking the name…
when there’s ultimately nobody from the original lineup, it’s just not the same band for me
I agree in general, but I think longevity comes into it too.
If the band lost a couple of members early on, but replaced them, then had decades of success and eventually replaced the remaining originals, you still have the early replacements there, who were involved for most of their career.
It would seem harsh to say it’s not the same band just because none of the original members are there.
Good question, but the comment I was replying to only mentioned a single band member change.
Philosophically it’s hard to say at what point it stops being the same band. It’s the Ship of Theseus, or as it’s often known here in the UK, Trigger’s Broom, after a scene in the sitcom Only Fools and Horses.
I think The Doors were awful.
Awful people or awful music?
Guns ‘n’ Roses sucks.
I think that’s pretty widely agreed upon - ditto with KISS.
Not unpopular, just weird: the way to find your favorite song is keeping one as an alarm sound without starting to actively hate it.
Next level: set it as your boss’ phone ring tone.
This has been my alarm for 3 years and I still love it
LoL this made my day. Thank you.
I feel like that’s impossible for me.
However, I set my ringtone forever ago and it never annoys me when it comes on. I like hearing it. It’s a chiptune from a keygen of soft software I pirated as a teen lmao.
Yup, Star Trek: Deep Space Nine theme song as my alarm, 5 years and counting
Imagine Dragons is pretty good
How is that a unpopular opinion ? We were all rocking Believer as kid
Fuck I’m old.
I’ve never heard of this band but Wikipedia tells me Believer came out in 2017… lol how old can you possibly be?
I was definitely no longer a kid long before 2017
Ah my bad
Has it come to this? by The Streets is awful, the worst song I’ve ever heard. It plays a lot on a particular station and it drives me nuts
Modern music slaps. Just gotta find the right albums.
There’s people on spotify with less than 5000 monthly listeners pumping out music so good it would have topped charts 10 years ago. The quality and talent of artists these days is insane.
These days? This has always been the case. I remember downloading mp3s from unknowns who offered their music for free in the internet on the early 2000s. Great music.
Care to share some of your favorites?
One of my favorites recently has been Djesse Vol. 4 by Jacob Collier
Depends on how new you want it, but Rime of Memory by Panopticon is great.
Bands that title their album random symbols (or a series of them) are assholes.
I’m looking at KMFDM (can’t even encode “symbols” accurately) and Justice (their first album, often called latin cross). Both great albums that suffer from fucking horrible visibility because of their shit names.
Everyone calls it “KMFDM - symbols” for a reason. I agree only in that it drives me insane when I would rip CDs and have to deal with trying to figure out what to name them. Also, fuck Leæther Strip for their stupid “æ” in the name.
What?? KMFDM back in the 90s were groundbreaking with their name and album art alone. Very stylized, nihilistic vibes aesthetically when I would see their albums in the record store - even before I ever listened to them. Hell, I even shoplifted a cassette tape from Camelot Records when I was a teenager just cuz I was so intrigued as to what this band was about.
You’ve awakened my “old man yells at cloud” vibes with this one.
Hey, both the bands I mentioned are awesome - I just object to the symbolic naming of albums. If you read “KMFDM’s Symbols album” and knew exactly what I’m talking about then you’re part of an in-group and everyone not in that in group standing with us in a record store in the 90s wouldn’t have a clue which album we were talking about… if we were talking about the album over lunch and they went to a record shop to pick up a copy they wouldn’t be able to find it without awkwardly asking a clerk.
Obscure symbol album names create elitism that we don’t need - you could easily find Nirvana’s Nevermind but by naming their album… that untranscribable string of symbols they made it less accessible to new listeners.
I don’t think I’d call them assholes… more just shortsighted about the realities of selling an album, specifically in how you refer to the album both in speech and in writing.
David Bowie had like, 2 okay songs.
You’re walking on dangerous road mate
You’re wrong but I’ll bite. What 2 songs lol.
And I’m joking with the you’re wrong. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
Bring Me The Disco King, and that other one about taking protein pills
Unrelated but pooping ok?
Fiber for the win!
I generally don’t have any interest in music… I mean, is fine some of the time, but I certainly wouldn’t go out of my way for it. I also don’t think it should be allowed as “background noise” in public places. It can have profound effects on your mood without you even realizing it’s happening.
I can’t even remember how many times the wrong music as background noise has screwed with my mood for no reason
