For me : Trippie Redd’s “!” Is actually a great album

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    7 months ago

    Has it come to this? by The Streets is awful, the worst song I’ve ever heard. It plays a lot on a particular station and it drives me nuts

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    Trent Reznor’s original version of Hurt is better than Johnny Cash’s version, which is terrible. I strongly dislike him bringing in the religious aspect by changing the lyrics and I just plain don’t like his voice.

    Yeah, I said it.

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    Baroque music sounds absolutely shit. Composers try to mix in so many different voices that it’s the musical equivalent of a TV panel show where everyone is shouting over one another.

    On that note: harpsichords in ensembles are background noise at best and very few people would notice their absence.

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    Modern electronic music is the spiritual successor to classical music (and modern-day “classical” compositions are just rehashes).

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      I upvoted you, but you are not entirely right in my opinion.

      Not all classical music is created equal. I am quite convinced that if J.S. Bach had lived today, he would make music like Squarepusher. However, somebody like Gustav Holst would probably be in some kind of doom metal or progressive metal.

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      Modern electronic music is the spiritual successor to classical music

      I don’t disagree, but can you explain your reasoning behind this?

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        Mostly because electronic music is made by a single composer and that the performance by the musicians itself is not as central to the composition.

        And that Mozart would be probably making electronic music if he was born in this era.

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          performance by the musicians itself is not as central to the composition

          Extremely debatable. With Renaissance and Romanticism came the cult of personality around celebrities. Lisztomania basically mirrored Beatlemania but for the virtuoso Hungarian pianist and composer, in the mid 1800s. Haydn and Paganini reportedly had a rather large female followings who weren’t really interested in their knack for musical harmony. IIRC, there are accounts of Mozart indulging in the lifestyle of a young royal composer with some renown.

          I don’t know if he’d be making electronic music, honestly. Mozart broke so many of his contemporary musical rules, with all that has been invented since, I find it hard to believe he’d limit himself to it. Maybe progressive/experimental stuff ala Aphex Twin lol?

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            The composers are usually not the musicians though when it comes to classical music, especially since most of the composers are already dead 🤪

            But just imagine a Beatles cover band becoming more famous than the Beatles themselves. Something like is common when it comes to orchestras that play classical music though.

            Sure, there is some personality cult around famous conductors and so on, but that is really more comparable to DJs that remix but do not compose their own electronic music.

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              I mean, of course it’s gonna be interprets nowadays if the composers are dead, but composers were also often musicians or directors for their own music when they were alive 🤷‍♂️ It’s very difficult to play multiple instruments by yourself to hear your own composition when multitrack audio recording wasn’t a thing lol

              A more accurate equivalence for the Beatles cover band would be if they were from year 2187 and all of The Beatles’ recordings were lost to time, which wouldn’t be particularly weird at this point, considering nobody alive in this year would remember what hearing The Beatles was like.

              I guess if you’re talking about classical music as we live it now the comparison kind of makes sense, but “classical music” means so many things, spanning a couple centuries through multiple countries and waves - e.g. Bach, Mozart and Glass barely have anything to do with each other.

              Mozart would probably go fucking nuts looking at modern notation software like Sibelius/MuseScore/Dorico tho lol

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    Johnny Cash’s Hurt is overrated.

    Johnny Cash is great, and deserves his legacy, but that cover is mediocre.

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    Separating the artist from the art is fine.
    You can like music by someone who doesn’t share your social, political, or religious beliefs with.

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      This is actually really popular among my music students. I completely disagree on most case. X raped 300 kids but hey, he makes pretty good beats so let’s pay 200$ for a concert.

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      I guess it’s the same as buying Nestle Hot Chocolate knowing full well child labor was involved. It’s ok as long as your sweet tooth is satisfied.

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      I’ll go a step further:

      You have to separate the art from the artist because there is not a single artist I’ve ever encountered who wasn’t some kind of fucking trashhole of a person.

      Artists spent their lives on being artists, not developing good interpersonal skills or understanding politics or philosophy.

      Beleiving an artist is a “good person” is just setting yourself up for disappointment. Start out assuming they suck dogshit and you usually end up being right.

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        Agreed. Show me a flawless human being, and I’ll show you someone who doesn’t have anything interesting to share with the world.

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        I think it’s reasonable to draw some lines that, when crossed, you’ll choose to disengage from their art.

        The musician doesn’t have to be a saint. But if I find out they, I don’t know, love eating live puppies, I’m going to prefer spending my time and attention elsewhere.

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            This is a fair position to take.

            I tend to avoid listening to interviews with bands I like in case they’re terrible.

            Though weirdly I’ll chat with folks at merch tables.

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      Upvoted because this is the one I most strongly disagree with.

      Hitlers art but ignore the holocaust?

      Lost Prophets but ignore the lead singers horrifying SA of children?

      Kanye West and his anti semitism insanity?

      Chris Brown and beating the shit out of women?

      R. Kelly and SA a child?

      Rowling and her hatred of trans children?

      Michael Jackson and his … weird child obsession?

      Gary Glitter and his SA?

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        Separating the artist from the art is fine for me as long as you don’t support them. There is nothing inherently wrong with consuming media you like from a controversial figure.

        Of course it’s hard to separate the artist and the art if you actively give them money for it.

        I like some of Kanye West’s music but I would never spend a single cent on one of his albums, watch an ad on Youtube for his music videos or listen to his songs on streaming services.

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          I cant stand listening to someone singing, knowing full well they rape children 🤷‍♀️

          each to their own I suppose

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    The majority of both Drake’s and Kanye’s discographies are horrible. I’ve had this opinion since way before they’ve had their public drama.

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    90% of all radio songs lately have been horrendous covers of old songs, with some of them literally being just that old song, but with a cookie cutter beat under it. The other 10% are just said cookie cutter beats with some generic singer doing an annoying voice over them.

    Popular music is becoming more creatively bankrupt than it ever has been.

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    I despise bagpipes. Anyone who thinks that awful noise is in any way related to actual music should have a set jammed into their ears so hard they come out the other side.

    /Rant over.

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      You might like this line from Arrested Development, Season 4:

      And, like all bagpipe music it was hard to tell if it was good music played horribly, or horrible music played well.

      I’m Scottish, so I felt guilty for laughing at that as much as I did :-)

      On rare occasions, I do think bagpipe music can be spectacularly beautiful and moving, but it takes a really talented piper and/or some contextualising occasion (like a major sports event) to really make me like it all that much.

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      I fuckin’ love bagpipes… but I also love Xiu Xiu so I wouldn’t trust my musical tastes.

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      How do you feel about Tuvan throat singing? I feel like both sounds are complex and deeply interesting but I also think it’s an acquired taste.

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    This may not be an unpopular in the outside world but somehow I bet it will be here, the vast majority of metal is just straight noise and incomprehensible yelling to me. I do enjoy when metal songs are covered by bluegrass bands though