I have a few daughters looking for science and engineering programs in the next few years. They’re all scared to attend schools in states hostile towards women. I get that. I’m looking for recommendations for schools in states positive towards women that have good STEM programs.
Make sure to set out the financial implications of different states. E.g., the California unis might be good - but you’re also dealing with out of state tuition.
And also look at the pipeline - I was interested in biology, but all of the people in the program were hyper competitive pre-medical students. And who wants to deal with that?
Any of the dozens of unis in California should be fine
Women go to the same universities as men.
This isn’t like shampoo, where the women’s version is a seperate product.
OP never mentioned men. Bit of a slip on your part.
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The self-report is loud
Take a little time to read the whole question. They’re asking about cities/states where their daughters can feel safe & empowered, as well as the fact that there is a good university, that likely shouldn’t have a “frat bro” culture.
Aren’t women safe in all states?
It’s a bit hard to fathom as a European, so I’d love some knowledge if you’d shareNot only have many states removed the right to an abortion, some of them are starting to restrict access to abortion care even when failure to provide that care could lead to grave injury such as the loss of organs or fertiity.
While there is a federal law on the books that seems to require this care. A case challenging one such state law was ruled on by SCOTUS over procedural issues and it is not clear yet how the high court will decide on the substance of the issue.
Think of the US like 50 countries in a trenchcoat, cosplaying as a single country. It’s a crap shoot in a lot of ways.
Some states have pretty strict laws regarding abortions.
I assume that this is what the person is referring to.
He only wants to send his daughters to places where they can get abortions? Seems a weird way of picking a college.
He wants to send his daughters to school in a place where they’re not only being valued for their wombs. Where they’re looked at as being equal contributors to their field of study. Where they’re provided opportunities the same as every other scholar there, and not assumed to be in college to find a husband.
And, yes, there is a bit of “if they get into trouble will they have options?” At play I’m sure as well.
Quit being obtuse.
@Nunar@lemmy.world was it abortions you were talking about?
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Sorry, I should have elaborated.
The laws are strict and would hold doctors liable in some places. There was an instance where a woman needed some pain killer but the doctor wouldn’t prescribe it because it could cause the termination of a fetus.
When the lady told the doctor she wasn’t pregnant, he told her that she could become pregnant.
I know that’s an extreme example, but it is an example.
Another is that abortions in the case of rape might be illegal in some places and traveling out of state to a place where about is legal is also illegal.
It’s also illegal in some places to knowing help a person get to a place where it’s legal to get an abortion.
I’m not in expert in the subject, and the law varies by state so it gets confusing.
My wife and I do not live in the US and don’t plan to return, so we have not followed it closely.
Oh, I think there was also an issue of cops or the government possibly buying the data from period tracking apps, but I’m not sure about that.
States that swing Republican have higher odds of abortions being unsafe
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I assume you are refering to the US without explicite writing it. But most European countries should be fine - especially Nordic countries.
Definitely look into European universities if you can afford the plane tickets. I wish I had as a young adult – I’ve heard great things about education quality as well as affordability.
default country
Default for bad stuff… Europe/scandinavia is default for the good stuff
Universities with higher female student ratio are probably a safe bet, although fair warning your daughters will statistically have worse matches for a partner.
Source; went to a school of higher women pop, scored a gem.
Jokes aside though, simply aiming for the best school is a safe bet too.
University of Michigan. Ann Arbor is a hardcore dem city and in a state with abortion rights protected af
I second Michigan! I live here, and the middle-state cities here are typically full of left-leaning young folks.
I’d be looking more at interests and leaders in those interests if possible. Red States don’t do much leading in anything relevant. It sucks to be looking at what one’s life interests might be like at such a young age.
Personally, I’d be looking at who is closest to TSMC, Intel, Samsung, etc., and focus on getting into schools and programs that lead to semiconductor fabs. There is a lot of money and investment in that space.
New Jersey has Rutgers, NJIT, and Stevens Institute of Technology. New Jersey in general is positive to women and all schools have programs in place to be inclusive to women in engineering.
Cal Tech
What do you mean by “states hostile towards women”? What’s going on there?
Many states in the US are on an anti-abortion warpath. I live in North Carolina, which recently outlawed abortion after 12 weeks. I want to move elsewhere – I feel unsafe and uncared for.
I have never been so grateful to live in the PNW. We’re a bit of a hike from NC, but you’d be plenty safe here!
Texas, Florida, Idaho, Ohio, Oklahoma…
We are in Florida and the universities are fine, except for the loss of the New College (may RDS rot in hell for what he did to that school). But if they are interested in engineering they wouldn’t have needed the free school.
If it’s cool here, it’s probably fine everywhere. Colleges are filled with kids from different places.
As long as it’s not a state university. The Florida government is doing all in its power to put their state universities to work as conservative ideology factories.
Ohio has constitutionally protected right to choose
And will vote for Trump in 2024 anyways.
No sarcasm. Is this a question you want an answer to?
Otherwise I wouldn’t be asking.
My daughter went to RIT and got a great education with zero harassment issues.
Buy the “Fiske Guide to Colleges”. It lists hundreds of colleges in the US. You can look up by major, location, price, etc.
It also discusses things like social life, acceptance rate, and amenities.
I have 3 kids that are in or went to college. This was indispensable.
Historically women’s colleges are generally very empowering environments. I live in the southeast, and the ones nearby that come to mind are Salem College, Meredith College, and Hollins University. I think all of these are liberal arts, but Salem has a health leadership focus and is developing a strong STEM program to complement that. From personal experience, Salem provided an excellent experience for me and the other people I know who went there.
I know the SE probably isn’t the location you’re thinking of, but North Carolina has had democratic governors for years and years who are supportive of women’s and lgbtq rights. Larger cities are generally more pleasant than the rural areas. Also the tech, science, and health fields in NC are vibrant and still growing.
Private colleges do come with a higher tuition, but scholarships are available if the students excel in academics and extra-curriculars. If they end up going out of state, the private school tuition wouldn’t be that different than a state school charging out of state tuition. And to note, the private schools I mentioned are nonprofits, so they’re not taking that money and pocketing it. They are held to a specific standard set by the IRS for nonprofits in general, as well as by the accreditation bodies for higher education.
Unfortunately North Carolina’s current abortion law is 12 weeks. That’s unacceptable.
I apologize if this isn’t the kind of comment that you’re looking for…but what’s wrong with the colleges local to you? Do you live in an unsafe area? It makes a hell of a lot more sense to go to a school with in state tuition rather than going across the country to a school with needlessly exorbitantly expensive out of state tuition.
Maybe I was just lucky in the state I grew up in.
Not sure if it’s implied by I’m assuming you are looking for American schools?
