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Ong wtf. I was expecting more “oh haha that’s totally me” or some form of solidarity, but nope
no cap, it’s really skibidi
This is real.
There’s 2 playing my game!?!??
It is and the peephole is the gateway to false negatives. It seems like they’re gone, and then they’re not! They were just out of spy range!
The fuckers forgot their car keys and had to dash back in!
Thats why you have pinhole cameras above your door pointing down the hallway in each direction as well.
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They are and it’s apparently celebrated here in Lemmy to be the worst kind of person without working on it.
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When did we as a society reach a new low that involves shitting on people with anxiety?
When it became a fad to brag about it and not to work on it and interact socially like our species has done for thousands of years.
It’s fine to not be social all the time and to have anxiety. This. And all this conversation in here about how normal it is to despise your neighbors enough to hide inside just because they are outside… Is not that. And it’s normalizing a fear and lack of interaction that doesn’t help people. It just makes it easier to feel right about your specific quirk.
No one’s bragging about anything. We’re just trying to have a good laugh and relate to some problems we encounter in our lives. Nobody explicitly told you that we aren’t trying to solve this problem. I don’t know why you would make the assumption that we weren’t.
It just seems like you want to shit on people going through something for the fun of it. Do better.
You speak on behalf of others that have stated the opposite and you speak to my motives incorrectly.
I don’t wish for people to normalize this as the end of the symptoms cause it creates a world where people who are suffering as well don’t have others to look to for having to go through the struggle of bettering oneself. People are in here normalizing the act of the anxiety and not the stress of rising above it.
I’m responding to the conversation as it is happening in here. You are responding to how you wish it was because it’s easier to blame the squeaky wheel.
For me, it’s my roommate and the never-ending rant about ‘stupid’ things going on at work.
I do this for every threat of human interaction ever. I wish I could fix that.
I’m human, and you just interacted with me.
EDIT: This community has apparently about 11,000 active users. You just interacted with them and it didn’t seem to be an issue.
You’re not a threat and you don’t set my nervous system into meltdown. It’s the level of abstraction that I need to interact at all.
I’m human
I don’t believe this. I’m pretty sure this computer I’m using is generating random comments as I’m scrolling through here.
You don’t fix it. You just work on it till you can handle more because you want to or you have to.
We aren’t so much as broken as just different, as we all are. We all just need to do our parts to work to be part of society rather than perfect it ourselves first.
Lots of yellow-bellies masquerading as introverts round these parts.
My relationship with my neighbors is that we’re great friends to the point that we don’t even knock coming into each other’s apartments, especially considering we regularly take each other’s dogs for walks while the others away.
This sounds like my personal nightmare. I’d never be able to relax knowing someone could drop by any moment. You’re way more friendly than I.
The whole neighborhood, for the most part, consists of friends. It’s employee housing for a ski resort so they’re all at least coworkers, with the exception of the cop who doesn’t do anything but is used as a threat against everyone else by the landlord and me who’s an unemployed arguably crazy person who’s trying to get on disability for the seizures and is allowed to stay since I sleep on my dad’s couch and he gets along great with the resort.
Regular Scandinavian life.
I need to move to Scandinavia.
Expensive, cold, and dark. Otherwise sounds fantastic.
Leave, wave “hi” at them and continue on.
Your the guy I’m hiding from.
Ew
The entire point is that seemingly easy thing just isn’t for them. I know because that used to be me at my worst points.
It can be learned however. Now I’m probably the guy they want to avoid because I will smile and say hi.
Every fucking time I want to leave some other neighbour comes out first and I have to wait for them to clear out before I can leave.
And they are so slow! Clear the public area swiftly you inconsiderate buffoons!
So you guys hate eachother?
It’s just normal social anxiety.
To actively avoid interacting with anyone outside of your specific social circle??? Doesn’t seem like that would be “normal”.
Undiagnosed anxiety sufferers who think it’s normal to be terrified of human interaction downvoting you
I suppose it depends on your definition of normal. But I specifically didn’t say it was normal for everyone, I said it was normal social anxiety. Which only affects around 10% of people. Still a pretty large number, that’s about the same as being left-handed. And yet you likely know more people that are left handed, because the odds of meeting someone with social anxiety are, of course, much lower even though just as many exist.
That would be “normal social anxiety symptoms” or even “normal for social anxiety” where normal applies to the symptom discussed. Here your use of normal supplements the “social anxiety” which I do understand is more prevalent than people would really acknowledge but isn’t exactly normal.
Even more so for zero contact, no coping mechanism social anxiety that has you saying rude things about others existing in shared physical space.Is “normal social anxiety symptoms” really meaningfully different than "“normal social anxiety”? Isn’t that implied?
It is not implied. In fact I doubt most people would consider social anxiety to be even a clinical term and it is often used a catch all for minor anxiety towards social interactions that can be difficult.
Following up someone saying they hide inside when neighbors are around and that they think they are buffoons for not moving at the speed you want because of a lack of self control with “well that’s just normal social anxiety” validates and normalizes behavior that is neither valid nor productive.
My grandmother was an English teacher and she would tell you it’s not ok to leave things implicit as you leave the comprehension to the reader when that is the purpose of you as the speaker.
well, you suffer from social anxiety, than yes, it’s normal
Wow you hate people more than I do. Just say that.
The old people always want to talk and I’m too nice to cut them off. There is no other choice but to avoid them at all costs.
Even worse when you’re really hungry but your flatmates are hanging out in the kitchen
Just stroll out as casual as possible and act suprise when they see you. “oh shit, hey” without any clothes on. Repeat this until they relocate their usual hangout spot to another building.
E: or discover your like exhibitionism and your fear of socializing drops (but your horniness rises when you can hear them congregating)
This is why people moved en masse to suburbs. You go to your car and drive away, rarely even see a neighbor. I’ve spoken to a neighbor once in the last year and it was because we were both shoveling snow (it was yesterday). We shoveled for an hour in silence but we kept getting closer to the street (she’s across the street). At some point we were only about 20 feet from each other and the silence was awkward. At least it was just a 30 second convo.
Wtf? I live in the suburbs and we talk regularly to the neighbours. Is this some weird US-specific dystopia?
Community is hard to come by here. It’s bad.
Yes
I grew up in a suburb and that was the only time I HAVE regularly felt like this. I still wince when I think of the loud Greek lady across the street who shouted my name whenever I tried to leave the house. Egads.
Never really got this myself. Maybe it’s not a rational thing since who gives a fuck?
Oh yeah it’s completely irrational. Used to be like this myself particularly when living in a dorm during college. Couldn’t tell you what I was scared of to be clear. No thoughts led me there, no experiance with people, no issue with talking to people even. I know if just walked out I’d be fine
When I was next to the door and heard someone in the hall I’d just feel nervous and fearful. I’d standby the door with my ear against it steadying my breath without making a sound until the were gone. Particularly aweful when the bathroom was down the hall you know.
Notaclue what changed either I just kinda stopped caring at a point
Maybe we should seriously stop normalyzing anxiety.
expressing struggles with a common disorder is not normalizing the disorder. this is a mean comment.
It’s not about this comic, it’s about the pervasive rappresentation of these struggles as cute quirks instead of crippling issues stemming from a dysfuntional society that needs to be changed.
That’s in a never ending amount of webcomics.
Should I also call them out as being low hanging fruits as well?
“it’s not about this comic” responds to this comic
listen i agree with your goals but if you didn’t mean to respond to this comic you can understand my confusion, no?
I’m sure you will master connecting a thing to a related concept in a matter of weeks.
you made a hurtful comment. just explaining your downvotes. :)
It’s a shame the world is not kind, doesn’t care and downvotes mean nothing
Thanks, I’m aware of how this may sound to the people struggling in that way. I sympatize with their struggle, I’m part of it more often than not.
I’d like it to not be the case and I don’t think it’s completely healthy to celebrate it.
We normalize everything now.
Yeah, that’s honestly the future of humanity at this rate.
Normalizing everything left and complaining about it not being normal enough and for it being normalized at all.
Yeah, just stop normalizing talking with people who don’t want to socialize.
The problem in the comic isn’t the neighbor, it is talking to the neighbor.
Just walk past without saying a word. What are they going to do? Move?
There is no problem in the comic. We live in a society, democracy is based on the idea that we want others to be treated fairly, we should start to act like one.
Greeting your neightbour is a good, easy, positive thing.
Sure, but it isn’t a necessary thing.
Not even in a society where everyone gets treated fairly.
democracy is based on the idea that we want others to be treated fairly
I think the last few months have more than proven that is not the case.
Democracy, in its most common implementation, is based on the idea of the tyranny of the majority. This often runs counter to the concept of treating others fairly.
People who suffer anxiety are in the minority - and they are forced to navigate a world of people who expect them to conform with their social norms.
We should just live and let live.
This is it. As long as I can remember in the US, the winning party (winning with 23.7% of the eligible voters approval vs 22.9% on the other side) have always essentially said, “suck it losers!” and done as much as they can of what the other party hates. It’s tyranny of the majority and why the US has a constitutional Republic framework to limit that tyranny, however ineffective it may be. Never has a party come into power and said, “let’s make sure we also represent the will of the millions of voters who voted the other way.”
Just say “Hi !” if you’re not an asshole
Only if they say “hi” first. There’s no reason to engage if they don’t.
It is normal social behavior to at least acknowledge other people
Completely depends on culture. Even in the US, I like working in the northeast because people ignore each other and it’s fantastic. In the south it actually impedes my work because it seems like everyone wants to have meaningless conversations all the time.
This is true. Denser populations tend to be more antisocial. Europe and much of the US northeast is crowded, most of the US south is not. It’s also why a lot of people from small-town US think most “city folk” are rude, and that includes many Europeans. It’s really just culture.
You are their neighbor and they are yours. Why should they say hi first and not you ?
There a real easy answer to that question. The reason they should say “hi” is because they want to. If they don’t want to, then by golly, they don’t have to. It’s as simple as that. Personally, I am not going to foist upon every rando on my block or in my apartment building, the burden of meaningless formalities just because I go to bed every night closer to them than 8 billion other folks’. I let them be so that they can get about with their busy day. That’s just plain considerate.
Swear to God some of you were raised in caves
People with anxiety are valid and deserve to have their problems taken seriously
They make me anxious…
Yes, but this situation isn’t necessarily anxiety. It can just be social awkwardness, not wanting to have to say hi, etc.
of course it’s a comic with fake characters with no objective truth to be found…
but the artist is a vocal mental health advocate
…it’s 100% about anxiety 😅
Social awkwardness can be a part of anxiety.
Did I say otherwise? I only said anxiety is not the only possible cause
Your comment, it’s probably not, it’s probably something else, really doesn’t lend itself to allowing it.
That’s not what they said though
They said
… this situation isn’t necessarily anxiety
“Probably not [thing]”.
That’s equivalent to “isn’t necessarily [thing]”.
Ah this is a classic language misunderstanding. “Isn’t necessarily” means “possibly not [thing]” or “doesn’t have to be” or “may or may not be” but doesn’t have much bearing on probabilities.
That’s how people usually use that term in English anyway.
EDIT sorry didn’t mean to dogpile. I just saw that a couple other people already replied.
That’s simply not true. I agree that it seems to be social anxiety depicted but you misunderstand that phrase. That’s basically just saying it could be something else, nothing to do with likelihood.
You aren’t necessarily good at modal statements.
No? First means less-than-50% probability of thing, second means less-than-100% probability of thing
Please don’t misquote me, I said nothing of the sort.
*Isn’t necessarily means >0% chance *Probably means >50% chance
They are not the same
They are and they do, but this example is extreme. Having been on both sides of this, I’d say no one should have to live their life in fear of every little interaction. It’s exhausting, and you will never succeed in getting every person to leave you alone anyway. But this doesn’t have to be “the way it is.” You can actually change and make your life easier. Sometimes it takes help and a long time, but I believe most people can do it if they really want to.
I don’t even have anxiety and I think this is relatable. It’s not even necessarily fear, but maybe not having the bandwidth to be social in that moment.
Spoons, etc
But where does the comic state or imply that living like this is healthy? The character doesn’t seem happy.
Do you think we should treat people with crippling anxiety by telling them that their anxiety is crippling any time they post on the internet about how crippling their anxiety is?
